Hi everyone, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya just participated in a striking roundtable discussion hosted by Governor DeSantis and Dr. Ladapo on Florida’s first grand jury report. Dr. Martin Kuldorff and Bret Weinstein also participated. Watch by pasting this URL in your browser or going to DeSantis’ X page:
What is the point of any Grand Jury which does not discuss the most important issues ,the mRNA COVID injections and the coercion to be injected with them ,the deaths and disabilities they have caused and continue to cause on an ongoing basis?
Promises that they will look at the issue or injectables in the future are just not good enough.
I am really disappointed in Ron De Santis and his Surgeon General. I had expected better from them.This seems nothing but a pointless white washing exercise.
It’s rearranging of the deckchairs on the Titanic while ignoring the iceberg in the form ofCOVID 19 MRNA injectables.
So many statements that needed to be said in public were made.
This was a huge step forward.
This is not the end of the battle with the grand jury. First step is to show that our health system is broken and the only people that claim they are qualified to lead have shown they did the worst possible things.
To include the mRNA as part of this investigation would have diluted the necessary facts that we know beyond any doubt. Returning to freedom of choice without coercion is a step that will prevent this in the future.
Pfizer, Moderna, Gates, Clinton's, and many others lied, people died and are still dying because they trusted the government and did not do their own research believing MSM, and the fear Psyops. MTG and Ron Johnson have already had formal meetings with medical doctors who have treated patients. There is always three sides to every coin. The thickness of the coin is the information they do not want us to notice. If one doesn't look one doesn't find. SV40, sudden death, aggressive cancer data, cardiac conditions in young males, neurologic data, blood clots, shedding. Massive cover up data. We can only change the world one kind message at a time and support the teams trying to open the minds of the foolish and deceived. It can be accomplished. History repeats itself.
Please specify your "necessary facts that we know beyond any doubt" which you want to address instead of the INCONVENIENT facts on mRNA vaccine deaths and injuries.
Two absolutely necessary facts are that 1) all-cause mortality went UP overall after the mRNA vaccine rollout, and 2) the mortality results in the gold-standard clinical trials of mRNA vaccines were "4 killed for every 3 saved" and a 16% increase in non-COVID deaths. But you are saying we should AVOID these facts because they're not politically expedient?
I tend to agree with you on the mRNA topic. But I see it as a separate topic that must remain separate from the health policies topic.
We know beyond a doubt that the Covid virus was engineered in a lab with our tax dollars for what they call gain-of-function (bioweapon). We know that it wasn't to prevent pandemics that nature would have eventually stumbled upon, but to use against people as a weapon.
We know that the health directives given by our 'authorities' were completely wrong.
We know that over 930,000 health professionals signed a declaration that stated such and were banned from social media for simply wanting a discussion.
We know that the white house paid social media companies to ban speech that they knew to be the truth at the time.
We know that the chance of surviving the virus for all ages was over 98% when it was at its worse.
We know that masks did not help reduce the transmission of the disease.
We know that proven medications were intentionally prohibited from being used while others that have still not been proven to make a difference were used at a huge profit.
I could go on and on. To focus on mRNA would dilute the strength of these findings and make it about mRNA instead of about the health system 'experts' that were completely wrong in their actions.
I also agree with most of your points in general, but I would caution that only some of your points are "known beyond a reasonable doubt". If I had to bet on each of them, I would be very uncertain about #1 and #6 because they are more like "feel-good facts by popular opinion", certainly not PROVEN facts. The bottom line is, I would be infinitely more comfortable and confident betting my life that "mRNA vaccines have killed more people than they saved" than on #1 or #6. The remaining points are very solid in my opinion- but I still think mRNA vaccine deaths are more important than most of them (except perhaps the suppression of alternative treatments that were shown to be lifesaving, because that extends way beyond COVID as well).
I am a big supporter of RFK Jr. but still don't think there is anything near "proof" for #1- I just have to say I strongly suspect that it's true but it can't be proven. And regarding masks, no matter how unpopular or "uncool" it is to say, the “masks don’t work” trials comprising the Cochrane review are equally flawed, poorly designed, and misleading as the "ivermectin doesn't work" trials on the OTHER side- just look at the adherence, settings, and baseline risk in those mask trials. I am glad I haven't worn a mask in years, but that's because I'm not really afraid of COVID; NOT because I am convinced that "masks are useless"- every indication is that masks (worn properly at the time of exposure) did work quite well for health care workers treating COVID patients, regardless of how unpopular it is to admit. But I AM convinced that mRNA vaccines are worse-than-useless as far as their net mortality impact, based on the clinical trials done by Pfizer and Moderna themselves and the totality of other evidence.
I always beg for transcripts. One reason Tucker has so many readers is he posts transcripts for all of his things with the video. I would love to read this. Autotranscribers are free/cheap. Many of us would be grateful forever if you posted transcripts to all of these video/audio presentations. Otherwise, the valuable content will just be missed.
Rav, I have eventually found those and they are most appreciated. Most vexingly, they do NOT show if you are using your Substack Inbox...only if you come in from the outside. This is really, really dumb as heavy duty Substackers only use the inbox and that version of your pieces does NOT have the transcribe button. Much to my irritation, Substack has removed ANY way for a subscriber to contact them -- another customer service failure like most other companies. But I know that authors have a way. Perhaps you can tell them how irritating it is that subscribers cannot report bugs. AND also tell them that they need to put the transcription button on the Inbox delivered pages. This would be trivial for them to do if only anyone ever went to do it.
On a separate note, one of the powerful parts of Tucker's and other interview sites is they also post transcripts of conversations/debates like the one you had. So if Substack is not transcribing those, perhaps looking at autotranscribers on your own for those would be a good idea. I assure you that you will increase your audience when you do so. Some of us are just unable/unwilling/whatever to take the time to listen endlessly to all of the content thrown at us -- but we really, truly want to access it. Reading speeds are 10x or more faster than listening speeds and some are only visual learners -- it matters.
Thanks for posting. I watched it on X. I was disappointed. Price I pay for unrealistic expectations. Progress is still possible I suppose, for the GJ. This briefing on the interim report fell miserably short of being worth my time.
Authorities did not tell a noble lie. They had been groomed by the CIA (Satanic Council) and elevated to the positions they were in over the past 75 years.
Most Nazis escaped accountability by fleeing to Argentina and the Antarctic. The U.S. government signed an unconditional surrender to the Antarctic Nazis in 1952. Project Paperclip didn't involve 15,000 scientists -- it involved 50,000 top Nazi leaders, who were put in various governmental positions and on the boards of every major U.S., Canadian and European corporation. Nazis created the CIA and NATO. Behind the Nazis was the Luciferian Brotherhood run by the Satanic Council -- e.g., bankers and businessmen, Freemasonry, the royal bloodline families, the Catholic Church, the Mormon Church, evangelical churches, Zionism, the Muslim Brotherhood.
"The Omega Project to Bring in the Fourth Reich and the New World Order"
That term was first used by Robert Malone, who is not a good person follow, if you understand my meaning. It's fine to refrain from calling the robots criminals, but let's not accuse them of "nobility" either.
I disagree on Malone. He has contributed to this fight way more than you have.
If you don't understand the strategy of under claiming and giving people the benefit of the doubt, then you are not qualified to speak on most subjects since you will likely be over claiming.
Suing Dr. Peter Breggin, Ginger Breggin and Dr. Jane Ruby for $25 million each? Not informing President Trump that the CIA had called him in Jan. 2020 and DARPA was already in contact with big pharma in February? Evaluating Pepcid instead of ivermectin, which gave the mRNA injections EUA? Allowing Remdesivir to be made the standard of care?
But you can't deny all the panels he has sat on and said the right thing. Or the cross posts of other excellent articles. Or many other things he has done.
Don't armchair quarterback.
What have YOU done to change the world for the better?
Can someone explain to me why Bret Weinstein is participating in this discussion? What does he bring in value? He had gotten so many things wrong and then flipped flopped on them that he should be a politician and not claim to be a scientist of some sort. Does anybody remember Bret's claim about the origins of SARS CoV-2? Does anybody remember Bret’s claim how his god, the evolutionary theory, can explain everything, because that's what evolution does? It creates things better and more lethal, like viruses, until it becomes painfully obvious that evolution couldn't have made the computer model of SARS CoV2 because of furring cleavage. That's when Bret had a religious awakening and a change of heart and became a good citizen and supporter of another "sure thing"; the lab leak theory he can't verify at all…
Why would DeSantis invite Bret to this discussion boggles my mind...
Great content and great contribution to the issue.
Hopefully the Jury will not shy away from being remembered in history books, by drawing strong conclusions.
PS: you forgot to mention the recent interview from Francis Collins who candidly admitted that their health policy completely disregarded anything that wasn't covid19.
Now that we know there are problems with the mRNA what do we do now? How about blood tests for everyone, cardiovascular tests, all FREE, by the way, as the “vaccine “ was Free.
Covid is not infectious to bats and has the signature that has been developed to make it infectious to humans.
"I really can’t think of a plausible natural scenario where you get from the bat virus or one very similar to it to [SARS-CoV-2] where you insert exactly 4 amino acids 12 nucleotide that all have to be added at the exact same time to gain this function—that and you don’t change any other amino acid in S2? I just can’t figure out how this gets accomplished in nature. Do the alignment of the spikes at the amino acid level—it’s stunning. Of course, in the lab it would be easy to insert the perfect 12 base insert that you wanted.70"
Kennedy, Robert F. . The Wuhan Cover-Up: And the Terrifying Bioweapons Arms Race (Children’s Health Defense) (p. 597). Skyhorse. Kindle Edition.
Thanks! Just found https://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/the-origins-of-viruses-14398218/ and realized that my question on isolation of Covid virus has become obsolete; virology is being replaced by nanotechnology. hydro-gel and self assembling nano structures are in vaccines and also EMP has surrounded us.
What is the point of any Grand Jury which does not discuss the most important issues ,the mRNA COVID injections and the coercion to be injected with them ,the deaths and disabilities they have caused and continue to cause on an ongoing basis?
Promises that they will look at the issue or injectables in the future are just not good enough.
I am really disappointed in Ron De Santis and his Surgeon General. I had expected better from them.This seems nothing but a pointless white washing exercise.
It’s rearranging of the deckchairs on the Titanic while ignoring the iceberg in the form ofCOVID 19 MRNA injectables.
So many statements that needed to be said in public were made.
This was a huge step forward.
This is not the end of the battle with the grand jury. First step is to show that our health system is broken and the only people that claim they are qualified to lead have shown they did the worst possible things.
To include the mRNA as part of this investigation would have diluted the necessary facts that we know beyond any doubt. Returning to freedom of choice without coercion is a step that will prevent this in the future.
Pfizer, Moderna, Gates, Clinton's, and many others lied, people died and are still dying because they trusted the government and did not do their own research believing MSM, and the fear Psyops. MTG and Ron Johnson have already had formal meetings with medical doctors who have treated patients. There is always three sides to every coin. The thickness of the coin is the information they do not want us to notice. If one doesn't look one doesn't find. SV40, sudden death, aggressive cancer data, cardiac conditions in young males, neurologic data, blood clots, shedding. Massive cover up data. We can only change the world one kind message at a time and support the teams trying to open the minds of the foolish and deceived. It can be accomplished. History repeats itself.
Please specify your "necessary facts that we know beyond any doubt" which you want to address instead of the INCONVENIENT facts on mRNA vaccine deaths and injuries.
Two absolutely necessary facts are that 1) all-cause mortality went UP overall after the mRNA vaccine rollout, and 2) the mortality results in the gold-standard clinical trials of mRNA vaccines were "4 killed for every 3 saved" and a 16% increase in non-COVID deaths. But you are saying we should AVOID these facts because they're not politically expedient?
I tend to agree with you on the mRNA topic. But I see it as a separate topic that must remain separate from the health policies topic.
We know beyond a doubt that the Covid virus was engineered in a lab with our tax dollars for what they call gain-of-function (bioweapon). We know that it wasn't to prevent pandemics that nature would have eventually stumbled upon, but to use against people as a weapon.
We know that the health directives given by our 'authorities' were completely wrong.
We know that over 930,000 health professionals signed a declaration that stated such and were banned from social media for simply wanting a discussion.
We know that the white house paid social media companies to ban speech that they knew to be the truth at the time.
We know that the chance of surviving the virus for all ages was over 98% when it was at its worse.
We know that masks did not help reduce the transmission of the disease.
We know that proven medications were intentionally prohibited from being used while others that have still not been proven to make a difference were used at a huge profit.
I could go on and on. To focus on mRNA would dilute the strength of these findings and make it about mRNA instead of about the health system 'experts' that were completely wrong in their actions.
I also agree with most of your points in general, but I would caution that only some of your points are "known beyond a reasonable doubt". If I had to bet on each of them, I would be very uncertain about #1 and #6 because they are more like "feel-good facts by popular opinion", certainly not PROVEN facts. The bottom line is, I would be infinitely more comfortable and confident betting my life that "mRNA vaccines have killed more people than they saved" than on #1 or #6. The remaining points are very solid in my opinion- but I still think mRNA vaccine deaths are more important than most of them (except perhaps the suppression of alternative treatments that were shown to be lifesaving, because that extends way beyond COVID as well).
RFK Jrs book proved the paper trail for #1 and many others including #6 (masks?).
The Cochran Institute produced a report that ended all mask mandates. They claim it was time, but it was within days of the Cochran report coming out.
RJK Jrs book has so many footnotes that it could be an entire book in itself.
https://www.amazon.com/Wuhan-Cover-Up-Terrifying-Bioweapons-Arms/dp/B0CG7BWGTL/ref=sr_1_1?crid=HB8E1E88HRRS&keywords=the+wuhan+coverup+by+robert+f.+kennedy%2C+jr&qid=1707673681&sprefix=wuhan%2Caps%2C250&sr=8-1
I am a big supporter of RFK Jr. but still don't think there is anything near "proof" for #1- I just have to say I strongly suspect that it's true but it can't be proven. And regarding masks, no matter how unpopular or "uncool" it is to say, the “masks don’t work” trials comprising the Cochrane review are equally flawed, poorly designed, and misleading as the "ivermectin doesn't work" trials on the OTHER side- just look at the adherence, settings, and baseline risk in those mask trials. I am glad I haven't worn a mask in years, but that's because I'm not really afraid of COVID; NOT because I am convinced that "masks are useless"- every indication is that masks (worn properly at the time of exposure) did work quite well for health care workers treating COVID patients, regardless of how unpopular it is to admit. But I AM convinced that mRNA vaccines are worse-than-useless as far as their net mortality impact, based on the clinical trials done by Pfizer and Moderna themselves and the totality of other evidence.
I always beg for transcripts. One reason Tucker has so many readers is he posts transcripts for all of his things with the video. I would love to read this. Autotranscribers are free/cheap. Many of us would be grateful forever if you posted transcripts to all of these video/audio presentations. Otherwise, the valuable content will just be missed.
For all of our podcasts, transcripts are available and auto-generated. A new Substack feature. Easily accessible in each podcast post
Rav, I could not find it here. Can you?
I'm referring to podcast episodes on Substack, not this round-table on X.
If you click this episode link for example, you can see the transcript tab underneath the video:
https://www.illusionconsensus.com/p/episode-27
Rav, I have eventually found those and they are most appreciated. Most vexingly, they do NOT show if you are using your Substack Inbox...only if you come in from the outside. This is really, really dumb as heavy duty Substackers only use the inbox and that version of your pieces does NOT have the transcribe button. Much to my irritation, Substack has removed ANY way for a subscriber to contact them -- another customer service failure like most other companies. But I know that authors have a way. Perhaps you can tell them how irritating it is that subscribers cannot report bugs. AND also tell them that they need to put the transcription button on the Inbox delivered pages. This would be trivial for them to do if only anyone ever went to do it.
On a separate note, one of the powerful parts of Tucker's and other interview sites is they also post transcripts of conversations/debates like the one you had. So if Substack is not transcribing those, perhaps looking at autotranscribers on your own for those would be a good idea. I assure you that you will increase your audience when you do so. Some of us are just unable/unwilling/whatever to take the time to listen endlessly to all of the content thrown at us -- but we really, truly want to access it. Reading speeds are 10x or more faster than listening speeds and some are only visual learners -- it matters.
Many thanks for all you do.
Smoke and mirrors
Thanks for posting. I watched it on X. I was disappointed. Price I pay for unrealistic expectations. Progress is still possible I suppose, for the GJ. This briefing on the interim report fell miserably short of being worth my time.
Authorities did not tell a noble lie. They had been groomed by the CIA (Satanic Council) and elevated to the positions they were in over the past 75 years.
Most Nazis escaped accountability by fleeing to Argentina and the Antarctic. The U.S. government signed an unconditional surrender to the Antarctic Nazis in 1952. Project Paperclip didn't involve 15,000 scientists -- it involved 50,000 top Nazi leaders, who were put in various governmental positions and on the boards of every major U.S., Canadian and European corporation. Nazis created the CIA and NATO. Behind the Nazis was the Luciferian Brotherhood run by the Satanic Council -- e.g., bankers and businessmen, Freemasonry, the royal bloodline families, the Catholic Church, the Mormon Church, evangelical churches, Zionism, the Muslim Brotherhood.
"The Omega Project to Bring in the Fourth Reich and the New World Order"
https://inscribedonthebelievingmind.blog/2022/08/30/omega-project/
They said 'noble lie' so they didn't over claim. Whether it was stupidity or malice doesn't matter, the person should no longer be in charge.
That term was first used by Robert Malone, who is not a good person follow, if you understand my meaning. It's fine to refrain from calling the robots criminals, but let's not accuse them of "nobility" either.
I disagree on Malone. He has contributed to this fight way more than you have.
If you don't understand the strategy of under claiming and giving people the benefit of the doubt, then you are not qualified to speak on most subjects since you will likely be over claiming.
Suing Dr. Peter Breggin, Ginger Breggin and Dr. Jane Ruby for $25 million each? Not informing President Trump that the CIA had called him in Jan. 2020 and DARPA was already in contact with big pharma in February? Evaluating Pepcid instead of ivermectin, which gave the mRNA injections EUA? Allowing Remdesivir to be made the standard of care?
Those things are wrong. And he has a temper/ego.
But you can't deny all the panels he has sat on and said the right thing. Or the cross posts of other excellent articles. Or many other things he has done.
Don't armchair quarterback.
What have YOU done to change the world for the better?
That you for that.
So many statements that were in such a need to be said.
Covid the only disease worth worrying about.
Mask mandate made after the peak based on Hairdresser story by CDC not based in science.
Preventative cures banned (Ivermectin, HCQ).
2 weeks to flatten the curve based on BS
Would have been better to have done nothing. (lockdowns)
Can someone explain to me why Bret Weinstein is participating in this discussion? What does he bring in value? He had gotten so many things wrong and then flipped flopped on them that he should be a politician and not claim to be a scientist of some sort. Does anybody remember Bret's claim about the origins of SARS CoV-2? Does anybody remember Bret’s claim how his god, the evolutionary theory, can explain everything, because that's what evolution does? It creates things better and more lethal, like viruses, until it becomes painfully obvious that evolution couldn't have made the computer model of SARS CoV2 because of furring cleavage. That's when Bret had a religious awakening and a change of heart and became a good citizen and supporter of another "sure thing"; the lab leak theory he can't verify at all…
Why would DeSantis invite Bret to this discussion boggles my mind...
Great content and great contribution to the issue.
Hopefully the Jury will not shy away from being remembered in history books, by drawing strong conclusions.
PS: you forgot to mention the recent interview from Francis Collins who candidly admitted that their health policy completely disregarded anything that wasn't covid19.
Now that we know there are problems with the mRNA what do we do now? How about blood tests for everyone, cardiovascular tests, all FREE, by the way, as the “vaccine “ was Free.
Or, people can highlight the URL, right-click on it, and choose Open in new tab (or window). Cheers!
There was no info that COVID virus was finally isolated using thru scientific methods...
This was about accountability of our health system. It did a good job at pointing out the flaws to never repeat again.
The origins of Covid is covered very well in other areas. Have you read RFK Jrs new book?
https://www.amazon.com/Wuhan-Cover-Up-Terrifying-Bioweapons-Arms/dp/B0CG7BWGTL/ref=sr_1_1?crid=HB8E1E88HRRS&keywords=the+wuhan+coverup+by+robert+f.+kennedy%2C+jr&qid=1707673681&sprefix=wuhan%2Caps%2C250&sr=8-1
My question was about the original virus not "gain-of-function research successfully engineered “chimeric viruses” that can infect and kill humans".
If premises are incorrect, the conclusion is just a speculation; accountability is at the end this process.
I haven't read it yet, just a synopsis,
Covid is not infectious to bats and has the signature that has been developed to make it infectious to humans.
"I really can’t think of a plausible natural scenario where you get from the bat virus or one very similar to it to [SARS-CoV-2] where you insert exactly 4 amino acids 12 nucleotide that all have to be added at the exact same time to gain this function—that and you don’t change any other amino acid in S2? I just can’t figure out how this gets accomplished in nature. Do the alignment of the spikes at the amino acid level—it’s stunning. Of course, in the lab it would be easy to insert the perfect 12 base insert that you wanted.70"
Kennedy, Robert F. . The Wuhan Cover-Up: And the Terrifying Bioweapons Arms Race (Children’s Health Defense) (p. 597). Skyhorse. Kindle Edition.
Thanks! Just found https://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/the-origins-of-viruses-14398218/ and realized that my question on isolation of Covid virus has become obsolete; virology is being replaced by nanotechnology. hydro-gel and self assembling nano structures are in vaccines and also EMP has surrounded us.
There are new narratives,
Current stuff: https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/how-we-can-stop-the-whos-horrific?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=748806&post_id=141478511&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=1fi07j&utm_medium=email
As to accountability, the emergency use is an obstacle, but the genocide must be punished.