He’s captured and sounds like all the rest. The mandates came out even after the CDC admitted in late July the efficacy wanes and started recommending boosters. A real vaccine doesn’t require 5 or more shots. You should ask him if he’s up to date on all his shots, because if not, he’s not fully vaccinated according to his own logic.
Cuban’s arguments sound like the rest of the self-proclaimed “experts” who can’t believe that any given person, during the ridiculous lockdowns and various mandates, could actually delve into available data/information and develop a reasonable opinion of his/her own; contrary to that heralded by the bastions of “science” and their MSM talking heads. I no longer see these standoffs as conservative vs liberal, but pompous, narcissistic windbags vs us “little people.”
Your responses were fact-based whereas Mark Cuban just regurgitates the same idiotic nonsense void of facts but based on propaganda. Mark Cuban has always been an elitist snob who would rather push fear-mongering dangerous ideas than admit he was wrong and fell for all the hype. Deep down he must know his wrong he is. His ego is too big to admit his mistake.
Aug 18, 2023·edited Aug 18, 2023Liked by Rav Arora
Thanks for this! Sounds like more or less every conversation I’ve had since April 2021 after my wife’s best friend passed away from the Pfizer shot. There really is not much one can do besides pray for the vaccinated and for the souls of those that supported the authoritarian mandates. Just like we can’t unsee what’s going on they literally can never see it. Waking up to the truth, after injection and showing themselves as the monsters they are, is simply too much to handle for people.
That’s where I’m at for now. Working on forgiveness to preserve my own mental well being, but not letting go of embracing opportunities to enlighten. 2+ years of seeking vengeance has taken too large a toll on me already.
It’s not even just about myocarditis but also the damaging effect on the vaxxed immune system as well. Who knows what’s coming down the pike due to these experimental Vaccines?
People who bought into the vax don’t want to hear the truth because it is terrifying.
Wow, Rav you are an intellectual Superman. Seriously, your ability to state the facts and debate clearly, factually is so impressive. It must be a kick in the nuts for a guy like Cuban to be put in his place by a young whippersnapper such as yourself. You have a great road ahead, once again I gotta say, your parentsmust be so proud! Ps. You still living in their basement? My kids are and I wouldn’t want it any other way😉
"So in 2021, rather than youth related organizations trying to protect their male teens, only you and your associated doctors could see through the corruption, while organizations around the world could not and did nothing? "
This s a false premise. Mark is making the assumption that only those few who spoke out (in risk) were the ones who could see through the corruption and he's then using that as the basis for his argument. That would be like me saying because no one in Hitler's military stopped Hitler they all must have shared Hitler's world views.
This exchange is why I think arguing about vaccines specifically is a trap. Instead, the best argument is to start with the premise that the public health authorities completely failed at their job of reducing access mortality, maintaining a healthy society, and suppressing disease. The specifics of why that happened such as the risk/benefit miscalculation of myocarditis can be argued after people accept that the general premise of public health failed.
Cuban is a pug-faced charlatan! He single handedly is responsible for whatever goes wrong with the poor chump athletes on his sports teams that he forced to desecrate their bodies with that poison! What an absolutely insufferable, odious little parasite he is- towing the line for Big Pharma when the overwhelming evidence of their egregious malfeasance is right in front of his face.....Proof once again that all the money in the world buys neither common sense or even a semblance of decency and respect to one’s fellow humans....He’s just revolting beyond words....
Looks more like Mark doesn't want to go on a show where he'll be made out to look like a fool. He does ask some decent questions, but it's pretty obvious that he more wants to believe that the shots work and did no harm when all evidence seems to show they did not work and caused much more harm than vaccines did in the past. If we had any other new shot that caused this much damage, it would be pulled.
As for insurance - it's still a little too early to show what will happen there, but as more facts come out I wonder how many will push back on clotting/myocarditis treatments? I think the Life Insurance businesses have already noted an uptick in payouts, but that would be better checked by someone who really follows that industry.
I think the two biggest Oporto misses here were pointing him to Ed Dowd’s work and the Great Barrington Declaration as a better glimpse into the folks who disagreed and warned about the CDC and FDAs errors.
Keep in mind as one of teh wealthy investors Mark has to appear to be in line with the "established narratives" and going the extra mile by actively debating someone when you weren't asked or required to is a way to getting some extra virtue signal like attention from those peers. All that has happened to Trump is proof that the corruption isn't afraid of over reach or exposure any more. They've so infiltrated the system that they are now comfortable with not being as stealthy or secretive as they have been.
I wonder what Lebron James and his son would say to Mark Cuban. I've been a nurse for 25 years and I had the most difficult time awakening to the fact our medical institutions have been lying to us, I never thought doctors would fall for all of this, I use to believe they would do anything to save someone's life but I was VERY WRONG. They don't read studies about the medicine they prescribe, they don't read the studies on vaccines, they just read the conclusion at the end of the articles or the headlines, which many times are not accurate and do not reflect the actual numbers from the studies. We know this from the opiod crisis, the pharmaceutical industry is a cartel, yet we trusted them to bring and end to pandemic that never was a pandemic. If doctors truly read medical articles and were objective, they would understand most vaccines aren't safe or effective, and start treating the root cause of diseases instead of overmedication everyone. But there is no money in that.
Rav, way to push back with spot-on logic in the face of blind adherence to proven corrupt advice from the CDC.
He’s captured and sounds like all the rest. The mandates came out even after the CDC admitted in late July the efficacy wanes and started recommending boosters. A real vaccine doesn’t require 5 or more shots. You should ask him if he’s up to date on all his shots, because if not, he’s not fully vaccinated according to his own logic.
Cuban’s arguments sound like the rest of the self-proclaimed “experts” who can’t believe that any given person, during the ridiculous lockdowns and various mandates, could actually delve into available data/information and develop a reasonable opinion of his/her own; contrary to that heralded by the bastions of “science” and their MSM talking heads. I no longer see these standoffs as conservative vs liberal, but pompous, narcissistic windbags vs us “little people.”
Your responses were fact-based whereas Mark Cuban just regurgitates the same idiotic nonsense void of facts but based on propaganda. Mark Cuban has always been an elitist snob who would rather push fear-mongering dangerous ideas than admit he was wrong and fell for all the hype. Deep down he must know his wrong he is. His ego is too big to admit his mistake.
Thanks for this! Sounds like more or less every conversation I’ve had since April 2021 after my wife’s best friend passed away from the Pfizer shot. There really is not much one can do besides pray for the vaccinated and for the souls of those that supported the authoritarian mandates. Just like we can’t unsee what’s going on they literally can never see it. Waking up to the truth, after injection and showing themselves as the monsters they are, is simply too much to handle for people.
That’s where I’m at for now. Working on forgiveness to preserve my own mental well being, but not letting go of embracing opportunities to enlighten. 2+ years of seeking vengeance has taken too large a toll on me already.
It’s not even just about myocarditis but also the damaging effect on the vaxxed immune system as well. Who knows what’s coming down the pike due to these experimental Vaccines?
People who bought into the vax don’t want to hear the truth because it is terrifying.
Wow, Rav you are an intellectual Superman. Seriously, your ability to state the facts and debate clearly, factually is so impressive. It must be a kick in the nuts for a guy like Cuban to be put in his place by a young whippersnapper such as yourself. You have a great road ahead, once again I gotta say, your parentsmust be so proud! Ps. You still living in their basement? My kids are and I wouldn’t want it any other way😉
"So in 2021, rather than youth related organizations trying to protect their male teens, only you and your associated doctors could see through the corruption, while organizations around the world could not and did nothing? "
This s a false premise. Mark is making the assumption that only those few who spoke out (in risk) were the ones who could see through the corruption and he's then using that as the basis for his argument. That would be like me saying because no one in Hitler's military stopped Hitler they all must have shared Hitler's world views.
Cuban is very smart and was in the right place and time to do very very well for himself . Good for him .
But many like him think that if they’ve succeeded in one thing , that makes them good at everything, and commensurately smart .
Not always the case Mr Cuban
This exchange is why I think arguing about vaccines specifically is a trap. Instead, the best argument is to start with the premise that the public health authorities completely failed at their job of reducing access mortality, maintaining a healthy society, and suppressing disease. The specifics of why that happened such as the risk/benefit miscalculation of myocarditis can be argued after people accept that the general premise of public health failed.
Cuban is a pug-faced charlatan! He single handedly is responsible for whatever goes wrong with the poor chump athletes on his sports teams that he forced to desecrate their bodies with that poison! What an absolutely insufferable, odious little parasite he is- towing the line for Big Pharma when the overwhelming evidence of their egregious malfeasance is right in front of his face.....Proof once again that all the money in the world buys neither common sense or even a semblance of decency and respect to one’s fellow humans....He’s just revolting beyond words....
Looks more like Mark doesn't want to go on a show where he'll be made out to look like a fool. He does ask some decent questions, but it's pretty obvious that he more wants to believe that the shots work and did no harm when all evidence seems to show they did not work and caused much more harm than vaccines did in the past. If we had any other new shot that caused this much damage, it would be pulled.
As for insurance - it's still a little too early to show what will happen there, but as more facts come out I wonder how many will push back on clotting/myocarditis treatments? I think the Life Insurance businesses have already noted an uptick in payouts, but that would be better checked by someone who really follows that industry.
I think the two biggest Oporto misses here were pointing him to Ed Dowd’s work and the Great Barrington Declaration as a better glimpse into the folks who disagreed and warned about the CDC and FDAs errors.
Keep in mind as one of teh wealthy investors Mark has to appear to be in line with the "established narratives" and going the extra mile by actively debating someone when you weren't asked or required to is a way to getting some extra virtue signal like attention from those peers. All that has happened to Trump is proof that the corruption isn't afraid of over reach or exposure any more. They've so infiltrated the system that they are now comfortable with not being as stealthy or secretive as they have been.
I wonder what Lebron James and his son would say to Mark Cuban. I've been a nurse for 25 years and I had the most difficult time awakening to the fact our medical institutions have been lying to us, I never thought doctors would fall for all of this, I use to believe they would do anything to save someone's life but I was VERY WRONG. They don't read studies about the medicine they prescribe, they don't read the studies on vaccines, they just read the conclusion at the end of the articles or the headlines, which many times are not accurate and do not reflect the actual numbers from the studies. We know this from the opiod crisis, the pharmaceutical industry is a cartel, yet we trusted them to bring and end to pandemic that never was a pandemic. If doctors truly read medical articles and were objective, they would understand most vaccines aren't safe or effective, and start treating the root cause of diseases instead of overmedication everyone. But there is no money in that.
He was losing the argument so he bailed.