I am a signer on the Great Barrington Declaration and am very, very proud to be there. I remember the day I signed it, what I was doing, and how I felt. My pride will never diminish.
Thank you so much for bringing this interview to us. Standing up is what it will take - from all of us. Thank you both for doing so - from the beginning of this strange tyrannical lunacy - of which many are still blinded from. Thank you again!
Next time, we must say no to loss of civil rights, from Day-1.
Even if the virus is 99% lethal, there is no life on Earth worth living under a state of mandates. I loved the Spanish Netflix series The Barrier, which portrayed such authoritarianism still present 25 years after the virus... kinda like the Patriot Act.
It is ridiculous that Harvard would not give Dr. Kulldorff a vaccine exemption. But not surprising. A friend of mine who was in her last year of nursing school had a serious adverse reaction to the first shot, vomiting and syncope followed by a seizure. She tried to get an exemption for the second shot given her history with the first, but was denied. So, she dropped out of nursing school.
There was so much anti-science foolery and outright malpractice demonstrated by the medical community and public health, that I for one will never trust doctors and public health officials again. And I am not alone.
The medical community just complied instead of doing their own research. They’re not exempt of responsibility and repercussion if that blessed day does happen.
Most if not all shot injured were pushed to get a subsequent shot. Many lost their jobs or obeyed only to lose their jobs because they were too ill to continue. I had a horrible injury from my first pfizer but was pressured to get more. I’m totally baffled as to what was going on behind the scenes. None of it makes sense.
It doesn’t make sense because none of it made sense. It will go down as one of the greatest psyops on the world one day. The only upswing is the lack of trust people have towards the Medical Profession. Never Forget!
It’s not seems like, the mRNA JAB is a depopulation tool. Some people will survive, but most will not be able to conceive and have children. These deep state demons covered multiple bases.
You’re right, there was no science to support the covid shot. Even standing 6 ft apart and wearing a mask for protection was false according to Dr. Fauci. The world was lied to for Big Pharma and severely pushed by governments across the world. No compliance, no job…. People died, people suffered from myocarditis, pericarditis, blood clots, paralysis… long covid… No accountability and no consequences for Big Pharma and hospitals who followed their protocols. The people that said NO were vilified, blamed for prolonging the pandemic when it was their mRNA VACCINE that prolonged the pandemic. Any doctor, scientist, virologist …that spoke out were fired and blacklisted. The media stood on their soap boxes as town criers for Big Parma and for their governments . It was universal sabotage. It’s not over. Sadly, we will see many die over the next ten years. SV40 in the vaccine causes cancer. There’s an incredible uptick in cancer, turbo cancer, rare cancers and people in remission for years facing cancer again. Babies hitting all their milestones went blank after their mRNA Covid Vaccine. Innocent little babies, besides all the stillborns from injected mothers. This will go down as the greatest depopulation tool by Big Parma on the world next to abortion and starvation of the poor across the world. The Deep
State isn’t conspiracy, it’s a big club of elites. They’ve infiltrated governments , Federal, State, Provincial and Municipal across the world, churches, school boards.. the media.. They did it for 30 pieces of silver, so to speak, meaning it was done for profit at our expense. It didn’t stop the spread and it’s never going away.
the reality is all this crap would reorganize and happen again. its the evil root of the entire octupus that must be understood. it is also a combination of collectivism, globalism, corporatism and the New Age religion of depopulation behind the scenes that made these 3-letter institutions become weaponized. I doubt we will live to see these insitutions destroyed. But if it does, what they have transmogrified into must never be allowed to happen again.
Thx to no oversight, transparency, integrity because there’s money to be made at the health of citizens across the world. It’s a big club and we’re not in it.
I also signed the GBD on day-1 (or 2), but I'm a nobody biologist. The first 6 months of the SCV2 hysteria, I posted G-7 death statistics every day on Facebook, to show how the measures and the age stratification meant it was no danger to 99.5% of humans, but people just didn't care. Once the hysteria set in, Canadians DEMANDED the Canadian government punish the unvaccinated.
But even in March 2020, long before vax talk, my feminist friends had decided to "save the world" by sewing handmaid "masks" (face diapers). So already in March 2020, I was disgusted by stupid anti-science behaviour.
Next time, RESIST from DAY-1 (I did, alongside UnHerd, Off-Guardian, GrayZone, and a few ohter news sites, but oh so few)
I don’t believe it was our Canadian government who structured the assault on people who, for good reason refused to get the shot. It came from somewhere, maybe pharma. The weaponized terms started even before the shots were available here, like anti vaxxers, conspiracy theorists, anti science. It was propaganda to indoctrinate the public to target those that refused. Rather than the shots being inefficient at stopping transmission it was blamed on those unvaccinated. This happened the world over. There is a lot of hurt and anger in the unvaccinated for the inhumane way they were treated. My biggest regret in life was getting the one and only shot as it has changed my life forever. There was so much propaganda. If you remember there was a hotline set up so you could squeal on your neighbour if they were entertaining people. The shut downs of restaurants, hair salons, schools etc. etc. but massage parlours were exempt. It was so divisive. Pitting neighbour against neighbour. I believe there exists some powerful entity controlling everything covid. The exalting of the shots was endless. No informed consent even though Pfizer’s own paper dated February 2021 was loaded with adverse side effects. I am angry that I wasn’t aware of that paper (FOIA) before I made my life changing decision.
In August 2021, Trudeau said he'd never make the experimental procedure mandatory.
Then, Canadians DEMANDED Trudeau make it mandatory and punish the unvaxed. Canadians live in a bubble and had no clue that most of the rest of the world (minus a few exceptions) was not as hysterical as Canada.
I did not get any of the shots.
Not due to propaganda though, I'm not much affected by propaganda, the only thing that could have made me get it was my employment, and my employer dropped the mandate, so I was able to return to work without the shot.
But all this talk about the vx is downstream.
The real problem is the early hysteria in early 2020. People accepted
-stay home
-social distancing
-lockdowns
-essential workers
-face diapers
ALL that was people being hysterical
Canadians expect governments to give us eternal life
Canadians expect governments to give us pain free life
Canadians expect governments to give us illness free life (and idiots like Sam Harris)
It's Canadians. This nation which Trudeau made "Post-national" has become insane.
ALL people who only decided to fight back when the vax mandate happened, are, well, sorry, part of the problem.
I don’t accept that all people who decided to fight back…, were part of the problem.
We became their problem. It was pushback that monkey wrenched them, the trucker convoy, pastors, doctors, virologists… the deaths, injuries/side effects and those that refused to comply. Without us fighting back, we would’ve been steamrolled.
Well said, but the propaganda was military strength and well-planned, so you cant necessarily blame the victims. BTW Unherd are part of the problem, not the solution - funded by impact investors who are part of the censorship industrial complex.
UnHerd's Lockdown TV kept me sane for two years. They were my main source of hope. I'm a super progressive, so I don't align with their conservative politics in the least. But the trouble is leftists have become fukin (pardon my French) lunatics and hysterics, and I can no longer tolerate them, so I guess I'll continue being a lone wolf.
I am severely disillusioned by my fellow man/woman.
I do blame people for their germophobia.
I do blame people for their ridiculous expectations of governments providing eternal pain-free life.
It's sheer stupidity.
The hysteria came BEFORE the "military strength propaganda". That stuff merely sealed the coffin.
But Leftists aren't the only problem. Canadian Conservative politicians locked down HARDER than Liberal politicians, bc Canadian Conservatives are Monarchist authoritarians, nothing like American Republicans.
tracy we witnessing the results of a marxist globalist hive mind takeover. this did not just happen locally but across the western nations that relinquishing national sovererignity for this perverted dream of one world government. this is the spawn of 200 years of godless enlightenment.
I'm a libertarian socialist? I appreciate things in both sides. This not Marxism but corporatism, or, maybe we can agree to call it fascism, a merger of corporatism and Marxism.
semantics. This is global authoritarianism on display. We are watching all these medical institutions around the globe that were once beneficial to mankind, now being weaponized against humanity. Greed, collective power and a dehuman agenda.
Yes and No. We originally lived a homeopathic lifestyle until Big Pharma took over and shut natural remedies down. It was a coup aligned and profitable by governments in most countries Yes, we need the medical professionals for surgeries when nothing else works, but it’s the last intervention, not the almighty first and only option. We lost our way, we bit the lie, trust the science. We forgot that nature provided everything we needed to live our best lives. Aside from that, their science has been proven wrong, their food guide is wrong. We’ve been lied to all our lives. A high cholesterol, sodium, high fat diet is necessary for a healthy life. The Rockefeller family has been behind this great deception for a century. It’s been a long term plan. Hard to wrap your head around, I know, rabbit holes are mind blowing and rock your foundation, but in the end, as always, the truth sets you free.
you blame private citizens for what? your perception of what they think, feel and expect? their expectations of govt are the problem? For not conforming in a way that you desire you condemn them, allowing you to easily pass off responsibly for your own emotional state and well being. You recognize the lunacy and emotional ignorance of those whose ideology aligns with yours and so of course your solution is blame other people and not the ideology itself. why? This would mean admitting, accepting and taking responsibility for adopting lunatic ideology. But no it's gotta be something wrong with everyone else not me and my ideas, together we are infallible!
UseeMiSandDISinfo was claiming people are not to blame. People are absolutely to blame. People acted like fools and DEMANDED governments protect them from the evil virus. It is 100% stupid thinking.
We’re in a pickle. The Left have been infiltrated by the CCP. The NDP thought they’d grab the gold ring by aligning with them. The Conservatives didn’t get the memo that it was all bs coming right out of the gate, but they eventually clued in.
The NDP havn't been socialist since evil Mulcair. Mulcair is but a Westmount elite capitalist who honed his political skills being an anti-French activist (as one from evil Westmount would".
I too was kept sane by Unherd, particularly during the early days of the hysteria. They were the only media outlet to interview Prof Johann Geisecke, the architect of the Swedish response as advisor to Anders Tegnell. His anti-consensus views, two months into lockdown, proved subsequently to be totally correct.
I'm not sure where your information comes from, but Unherd is owned by Sir Paul Marshall, a UK businessman who also owns GB News. GBN is a TV channel which is reviled by the censorship industrial complex, who effectively prevent it from getting any significant advertising revenue. Marshall's hedge fund may have investors who are part of the problem, but they do not seem to be influencing the editorial line of his media outlets.
I take your point, but the ‘anti-lockdown’ stance is effectively what’s known in propaganda theory as a limited hangout. Jordan Peterson’s ARC and UnHerd and GBNews are all part of the same hands, whose strings pull those intl puppets, esp the UK Tory Party. You’re welcome to read some of my posts about Legatum (another one coming next week) which expose the role impact investment entities play in the Censorship Industrial Complex, including the Covid era fraud.
In all discussions, timelines are important. Any new venture will seek to entice a specific following, create brand loyalty, before its corporate bankrollers do away with the pretence, and simply fold back into the establishment role.
Absolutely UnHerd was great in the beginning, but as of now, it has mostly become establishment.
It was heard more than you know. Like you, I hope the next time they pull this stunt,more people are awake and the push back is unbreakable. Thank you.
It's amazing to think back about Walensky denying post-covid immunity, or rather 'partial & transient' immunity, as Dr Vinay Prasad stated.
The fact that Dr Prasad refused to sign it was a huge disappointment to me, because outside your group of three, his little crew of allies were the only other very-pro-vax-pro-science people to fight this. Outside a circle of some 15-20-some Doctors, the quality of contrarianism quickly waned in quality.
But even from you guys, LEADERS of the resistance, I felt the the major failure was the ever-present caveat of "vax mandates are wrong because people with natural immunity are already immune"
the line should have been mandates are always wrong, end of.
All the Pandemic Preparedness plans by December 2019 said no to NPIs, no to enforcement policies.
The mandates/lockdowns went against ALL Pandemic Preparedness Planning.
The next time we must not wait for a vax mandate to fight back.
Next time, we must stand for civil rights before hysteria.
Readers/viewers might be interested in my in-depth feature story on Richard Hirschman, the famous/infamous embalmer who first showed the world images of the “horrifying” clots he was seeing in up to 50 percent of the bodies he embalmed.
If you read or skim the story, please note the link I added about a medical professional who recently became a whistleblower and reported that doctors and nurses are removing these worm-like substances from patients “three to 10 times every week.” They are NOT forming only “post-mortem.”
My dad was holistic, and I grew up with those beliefs. I can tell you fasting clears out cancer, and I believe it will clear out the coronavirus. I continue to fast two days a week for two months. Then I return to normal for two months, and I start fasting again.
Next time RESIST from Day 1, don't wait for vax mandates to come round.
NO to stay home
NO to face coverings
NO to "essential workers.
NO to closures
NO to "social distancing"
YES to GET HEALTHY. Get outside, eat better, lose weight
If governments were honest about healthcare, instead of paying us to stay home during lockdowns, they should have sent out food baskets to the poor, coaching for the obese, and free daily community phys ed sessions to encourage people to get healthy.
Would have been cheaper and saved more lives, from DAY-1
Very interesting interview! One of the craziest things to me seems to be that Harvard still has a vaccine mandate for students. I find that extraordinary and ridiculous, not sure what the institution is trying to prove or if it is receiving large payoffs from Pharma and has offered its students as a market.
Harvard & Stanford are the centre of the academic fake factchecking industry. See Shellenberger’s testimony to the Biden v Missouri case for just one aspect of evidence about this.
So wonderful to hear this logical discussion from two very accreditied people. As a layperson, to me what didn't ever make sense, was covid cases were being reported without context of actual number of fatalities and stats of such re: demographics, why when people got vaxed they felt more vulnerable amongst the unvaxed (wasn't that the point of getting them?), and why people didn't question the efficacy for so long of getting repeated jabs so close together; did that not show the opposite? And a enormous concern was that we lost the right to even discuss both sides, weight the pros and cons and make our own decision about our bodies. What resulted was that if you were holding off or deciding against the vax based on no long term data etc., you were automatically a conspiracy theorist and did not believe the virus existed. Incredibly sad and disappointing.
The excoriation of Atlas had nothing to do with science. He was opposed because he was working for Trump and giving him good advice. You guys took a position that was favorable to what was perceived as the view of conservatives. That was enough for them to work toward your destruction. All politics, no science involved.
Harvard had already destroyed its reputation with the debacle related to its own President's despicable behavior in her congressional testimony and her record of plagarizing. Now this idiotic firing of such a top scientist who has done nothing wrong. All alums should reconsider giving to this school in the future and future students should avoid applying to Harvard or any school mandating this dangerous and unnecessary/ineffective covid shot. Disgusting, actually. May the perfect opportunity present itself for Dr Martin Kulldorff. Sending him my best regards.
I am a signer on the Great Barrington Declaration and am very, very proud to be there. I remember the day I signed it, what I was doing, and how I felt. My pride will never diminish.
Thank you so much for bringing this interview to us. Standing up is what it will take - from all of us. Thank you both for doing so - from the beginning of this strange tyrannical lunacy - of which many are still blinded from. Thank you again!
Next time, we must say no to loss of civil rights, from Day-1.
Even if the virus is 99% lethal, there is no life on Earth worth living under a state of mandates. I loved the Spanish Netflix series The Barrier, which portrayed such authoritarianism still present 25 years after the virus... kinda like the Patriot Act.
It is ridiculous that Harvard would not give Dr. Kulldorff a vaccine exemption. But not surprising. A friend of mine who was in her last year of nursing school had a serious adverse reaction to the first shot, vomiting and syncope followed by a seizure. She tried to get an exemption for the second shot given her history with the first, but was denied. So, she dropped out of nursing school.
There was so much anti-science foolery and outright malpractice demonstrated by the medical community and public health, that I for one will never trust doctors and public health officials again. And I am not alone.
This was the travesty of the pandemic.
Not so much "medical community" as the medical-industrial complex.
The medical community went along with it... had most doctors been brave enough to resist the obvious foolishness, things may have been different.
The medical community just complied instead of doing their own research. They’re not exempt of responsibility and repercussion if that blessed day does happen.
One and the same
Most if not all shot injured were pushed to get a subsequent shot. Many lost their jobs or obeyed only to lose their jobs because they were too ill to continue. I had a horrible injury from my first pfizer but was pressured to get more. I’m totally baffled as to what was going on behind the scenes. None of it makes sense.
It doesn’t make sense because none of it made sense. It will go down as one of the greatest psyops on the world one day. The only upswing is the lack of trust people have towards the Medical Profession. Never Forget!
Seems like these people are trying to kill us... with total disregard to our human rights.
It’s not seems like, the mRNA JAB is a depopulation tool. Some people will survive, but most will not be able to conceive and have children. These deep state demons covered multiple bases.
You’re right, there was no science to support the covid shot. Even standing 6 ft apart and wearing a mask for protection was false according to Dr. Fauci. The world was lied to for Big Pharma and severely pushed by governments across the world. No compliance, no job…. People died, people suffered from myocarditis, pericarditis, blood clots, paralysis… long covid… No accountability and no consequences for Big Pharma and hospitals who followed their protocols. The people that said NO were vilified, blamed for prolonging the pandemic when it was their mRNA VACCINE that prolonged the pandemic. Any doctor, scientist, virologist …that spoke out were fired and blacklisted. The media stood on their soap boxes as town criers for Big Parma and for their governments . It was universal sabotage. It’s not over. Sadly, we will see many die over the next ten years. SV40 in the vaccine causes cancer. There’s an incredible uptick in cancer, turbo cancer, rare cancers and people in remission for years facing cancer again. Babies hitting all their milestones went blank after their mRNA Covid Vaccine. Innocent little babies, besides all the stillborns from injected mothers. This will go down as the greatest depopulation tool by Big Parma on the world next to abortion and starvation of the poor across the world. The Deep
State isn’t conspiracy, it’s a big club of elites. They’ve infiltrated governments , Federal, State, Provincial and Municipal across the world, churches, school boards.. the media.. They did it for 30 pieces of silver, so to speak, meaning it was done for profit at our expense. It didn’t stop the spread and it’s never going away.
Burn down the CDC, FDA and NIH and start over. Decentralize research funding and public health... Crowdsource it.
We need pharma funding out of science and health. It’s a huge conflict of interest.
the reality is all this crap would reorganize and happen again. its the evil root of the entire octupus that must be understood. it is also a combination of collectivism, globalism, corporatism and the New Age religion of depopulation behind the scenes that made these 3-letter institutions become weaponized. I doubt we will live to see these insitutions destroyed. But if it does, what they have transmogrified into must never be allowed to happen again.
Thx to no oversight, transparency, integrity because there’s money to be made at the health of citizens across the world. It’s a big club and we’re not in it.
I also signed the GBD on day-1 (or 2), but I'm a nobody biologist. The first 6 months of the SCV2 hysteria, I posted G-7 death statistics every day on Facebook, to show how the measures and the age stratification meant it was no danger to 99.5% of humans, but people just didn't care. Once the hysteria set in, Canadians DEMANDED the Canadian government punish the unvaccinated.
But even in March 2020, long before vax talk, my feminist friends had decided to "save the world" by sewing handmaid "masks" (face diapers). So already in March 2020, I was disgusted by stupid anti-science behaviour.
Next time, RESIST from DAY-1 (I did, alongside UnHerd, Off-Guardian, GrayZone, and a few ohter news sites, but oh so few)
I don’t believe it was our Canadian government who structured the assault on people who, for good reason refused to get the shot. It came from somewhere, maybe pharma. The weaponized terms started even before the shots were available here, like anti vaxxers, conspiracy theorists, anti science. It was propaganda to indoctrinate the public to target those that refused. Rather than the shots being inefficient at stopping transmission it was blamed on those unvaccinated. This happened the world over. There is a lot of hurt and anger in the unvaccinated for the inhumane way they were treated. My biggest regret in life was getting the one and only shot as it has changed my life forever. There was so much propaganda. If you remember there was a hotline set up so you could squeal on your neighbour if they were entertaining people. The shut downs of restaurants, hair salons, schools etc. etc. but massage parlours were exempt. It was so divisive. Pitting neighbour against neighbour. I believe there exists some powerful entity controlling everything covid. The exalting of the shots was endless. No informed consent even though Pfizer’s own paper dated February 2021 was loaded with adverse side effects. I am angry that I wasn’t aware of that paper (FOIA) before I made my life changing decision.
In August 2021, Trudeau said he'd never make the experimental procedure mandatory.
Then, Canadians DEMANDED Trudeau make it mandatory and punish the unvaxed. Canadians live in a bubble and had no clue that most of the rest of the world (minus a few exceptions) was not as hysterical as Canada.
I did not get any of the shots.
Not due to propaganda though, I'm not much affected by propaganda, the only thing that could have made me get it was my employment, and my employer dropped the mandate, so I was able to return to work without the shot.
But all this talk about the vx is downstream.
The real problem is the early hysteria in early 2020. People accepted
-stay home
-social distancing
-lockdowns
-essential workers
-face diapers
ALL that was people being hysterical
Canadians expect governments to give us eternal life
Canadians expect governments to give us pain free life
Canadians expect governments to give us illness free life (and idiots like Sam Harris)
It's Canadians. This nation which Trudeau made "Post-national" has become insane.
ALL people who only decided to fight back when the vax mandate happened, are, well, sorry, part of the problem.
I don’t accept that all people who decided to fight back…, were part of the problem.
We became their problem. It was pushback that monkey wrenched them, the trucker convoy, pastors, doctors, virologists… the deaths, injuries/side effects and those that refused to comply. Without us fighting back, we would’ve been steamrolled.
Now you know and I hope you use your experience, your voice the next time it happens. That’s how we change the narrative.
Well said, but the propaganda was military strength and well-planned, so you cant necessarily blame the victims. BTW Unherd are part of the problem, not the solution - funded by impact investors who are part of the censorship industrial complex.
UnHerd's Lockdown TV kept me sane for two years. They were my main source of hope. I'm a super progressive, so I don't align with their conservative politics in the least. But the trouble is leftists have become fukin (pardon my French) lunatics and hysterics, and I can no longer tolerate them, so I guess I'll continue being a lone wolf.
I am severely disillusioned by my fellow man/woman.
I do blame people for their germophobia.
I do blame people for their ridiculous expectations of governments providing eternal pain-free life.
It's sheer stupidity.
The hysteria came BEFORE the "military strength propaganda". That stuff merely sealed the coffin.
But Leftists aren't the only problem. Canadian Conservative politicians locked down HARDER than Liberal politicians, bc Canadian Conservatives are Monarchist authoritarians, nothing like American Republicans.
tracy we witnessing the results of a marxist globalist hive mind takeover. this did not just happen locally but across the western nations that relinquishing national sovererignity for this perverted dream of one world government. this is the spawn of 200 years of godless enlightenment.
I'm a libertarian socialist? I appreciate things in both sides. This not Marxism but corporatism, or, maybe we can agree to call it fascism, a merger of corporatism and Marxism.
Global corporations are anti life.
semantics. This is global authoritarianism on display. We are watching all these medical institutions around the globe that were once beneficial to mankind, now being weaponized against humanity. Greed, collective power and a dehuman agenda.
Yes and No. We originally lived a homeopathic lifestyle until Big Pharma took over and shut natural remedies down. It was a coup aligned and profitable by governments in most countries Yes, we need the medical professionals for surgeries when nothing else works, but it’s the last intervention, not the almighty first and only option. We lost our way, we bit the lie, trust the science. We forgot that nature provided everything we needed to live our best lives. Aside from that, their science has been proven wrong, their food guide is wrong. We’ve been lied to all our lives. A high cholesterol, sodium, high fat diet is necessary for a healthy life. The Rockefeller family has been behind this great deception for a century. It’s been a long term plan. Hard to wrap your head around, I know, rabbit holes are mind blowing and rock your foundation, but in the end, as always, the truth sets you free.
You can’t be both. If you’re a Socialist, you’re a Marxist , not a Nationalist. Quit lying to yourself.
you blame private citizens for what? your perception of what they think, feel and expect? their expectations of govt are the problem? For not conforming in a way that you desire you condemn them, allowing you to easily pass off responsibly for your own emotional state and well being. You recognize the lunacy and emotional ignorance of those whose ideology aligns with yours and so of course your solution is blame other people and not the ideology itself. why? This would mean admitting, accepting and taking responsibility for adopting lunatic ideology. But no it's gotta be something wrong with everyone else not me and my ideas, together we are infallible!
Bwa hahahaha!
What do you mean. What’s so ludicrously funny? Are you saying that trust the science is the answer?
UseeMiSandDISinfo was claiming people are not to blame. People are absolutely to blame. People acted like fools and DEMANDED governments protect them from the evil virus. It is 100% stupid thinking.
Seems like you have some reading to do. Good luck with your journey.
We’re in a pickle. The Left have been infiltrated by the CCP. The NDP thought they’d grab the gold ring by aligning with them. The Conservatives didn’t get the memo that it was all bs coming right out of the gate, but they eventually clued in.
The NDP havn't been socialist since evil Mulcair. Mulcair is but a Westmount elite capitalist who honed his political skills being an anti-French activist (as one from evil Westmount would".
Today, NDP is just a mouthpiece for wokeism.
I too was kept sane by Unherd, particularly during the early days of the hysteria. They were the only media outlet to interview Prof Johann Geisecke, the architect of the Swedish response as advisor to Anders Tegnell. His anti-consensus views, two months into lockdown, proved subsequently to be totally correct.
I'm not sure where your information comes from, but Unherd is owned by Sir Paul Marshall, a UK businessman who also owns GB News. GBN is a TV channel which is reviled by the censorship industrial complex, who effectively prevent it from getting any significant advertising revenue. Marshall's hedge fund may have investors who are part of the problem, but they do not seem to be influencing the editorial line of his media outlets.
I take your point, but the ‘anti-lockdown’ stance is effectively what’s known in propaganda theory as a limited hangout. Jordan Peterson’s ARC and UnHerd and GBNews are all part of the same hands, whose strings pull those intl puppets, esp the UK Tory Party. You’re welcome to read some of my posts about Legatum (another one coming next week) which expose the role impact investment entities play in the Censorship Industrial Complex, including the Covid era fraud.
In all discussions, timelines are important. Any new venture will seek to entice a specific following, create brand loyalty, before its corporate bankrollers do away with the pretence, and simply fold back into the establishment role.
Absolutely UnHerd was great in the beginning, but as of now, it has mostly become establishment.
It was heard more than you know. Like you, I hope the next time they pull this stunt,more people are awake and the push back is unbreakable. Thank you.
Re: post-covid immunity being "stronger" than vaccine immunity.
I think it's more useful to say 'broader' rather than 'stronger'.
What we know for sure is:
- generally, vaccine immunity is lesser or equal, to post-illness immunity
- Spike protein immunity is absolutely ridiculously narrower than post-illness immunity
But, the vaccine debate is downstream. Resistance should have started at the first hint of social disruption.
Brilliant Conversation!
It's amazing to think back about Walensky denying post-covid immunity, or rather 'partial & transient' immunity, as Dr Vinay Prasad stated.
The fact that Dr Prasad refused to sign it was a huge disappointment to me, because outside your group of three, his little crew of allies were the only other very-pro-vax-pro-science people to fight this. Outside a circle of some 15-20-some Doctors, the quality of contrarianism quickly waned in quality.
But even from you guys, LEADERS of the resistance, I felt the the major failure was the ever-present caveat of "vax mandates are wrong because people with natural immunity are already immune"
the line should have been mandates are always wrong, end of.
All the Pandemic Preparedness plans by December 2019 said no to NPIs, no to enforcement policies.
The mandates/lockdowns went against ALL Pandemic Preparedness Planning.
The next time we must not wait for a vax mandate to fight back.
Next time, we must stand for civil rights before hysteria.
Readers/viewers might be interested in my in-depth feature story on Richard Hirschman, the famous/infamous embalmer who first showed the world images of the “horrifying” clots he was seeing in up to 50 percent of the bodies he embalmed.
If you read or skim the story, please note the link I added about a medical professional who recently became a whistleblower and reported that doctors and nurses are removing these worm-like substances from patients “three to 10 times every week.” They are NOT forming only “post-mortem.”
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/my-visit-with-historys-most-important?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
My dad was holistic, and I grew up with those beliefs. I can tell you fasting clears out cancer, and I believe it will clear out the coronavirus. I continue to fast two days a week for two months. Then I return to normal for two months, and I start fasting again.
Next time RESIST from Day 1, don't wait for vax mandates to come round.
NO to stay home
NO to face coverings
NO to "essential workers.
NO to closures
NO to "social distancing"
YES to GET HEALTHY. Get outside, eat better, lose weight
If governments were honest about healthcare, instead of paying us to stay home during lockdowns, they should have sent out food baskets to the poor, coaching for the obese, and free daily community phys ed sessions to encourage people to get healthy.
Would have been cheaper and saved more lives, from DAY-1
Have any of you three considered suing Collins, Fauci, certain media figures, for their smear campaigns?
Very interesting interview! One of the craziest things to me seems to be that Harvard still has a vaccine mandate for students. I find that extraordinary and ridiculous, not sure what the institution is trying to prove or if it is receiving large payoffs from Pharma and has offered its students as a market.
Harvard & Stanford are the centre of the academic fake factchecking industry. See Shellenberger’s testimony to the Biden v Missouri case for just one aspect of evidence about this.
Pandemic? Oh, the CDC/FDA/CCP Scamdemic.
So wonderful to hear this logical discussion from two very accreditied people. As a layperson, to me what didn't ever make sense, was covid cases were being reported without context of actual number of fatalities and stats of such re: demographics, why when people got vaxed they felt more vulnerable amongst the unvaxed (wasn't that the point of getting them?), and why people didn't question the efficacy for so long of getting repeated jabs so close together; did that not show the opposite? And a enormous concern was that we lost the right to even discuss both sides, weight the pros and cons and make our own decision about our bodies. What resulted was that if you were holding off or deciding against the vax based on no long term data etc., you were automatically a conspiracy theorist and did not believe the virus existed. Incredibly sad and disappointing.
The excoriation of Atlas had nothing to do with science. He was opposed because he was working for Trump and giving him good advice. You guys took a position that was favorable to what was perceived as the view of conservatives. That was enough for them to work toward your destruction. All politics, no science involved.
Harvard had already destroyed its reputation with the debacle related to its own President's despicable behavior in her congressional testimony and her record of plagarizing. Now this idiotic firing of such a top scientist who has done nothing wrong. All alums should reconsider giving to this school in the future and future students should avoid applying to Harvard or any school mandating this dangerous and unnecessary/ineffective covid shot. Disgusting, actually. May the perfect opportunity present itself for Dr Martin Kulldorff. Sending him my best regards.
Thank you both. The deceit and cowardice in the medical community has been shameful.