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Welcome, everyone, to a very special episode of the Illusion of Consensus podcast. We're back after a bit of a hiatus over the past few months. And I'm very excited today for this episode, which I've been interested in doing for over a year. Dr. Philip Krauss is here. He's been very, very busy over the past year,
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but he's been very gracious now in providing his time and doing his first ever long form podcast interview. And we're very happy to have him here. For those that don't know, Dr. Philip Krause worked at the FDA since 1991. And over the last 10 years, he's been the deputy director of the Office of Vaccine Research and Review.
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And he notably resigned in late 2021 over pressure from the White House to approve the new round of boosters. And he testified. Which committee was it again, Dr. Philip Krause?

FULL 2-Hour Interview With Dr. Philip Krause On Politics Corrupting FDA Vaccine Review Process

Thanks to A MidWestern Doctor for citing my interview with Dr. Krause in his recent piece.

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This is the full video podcast of my extended discussion with Dr. Philip Krause who was the deputy director of the FDA’s Office of Vaccines Research and Review. He shares insights into the political pressures that influenced decision-making, the importance of transparency in public health, and the challenges faced in communicating vaccine safety and efficacy to the public. Dr. Krause emphasizes the need for reforms within the FDA to enhance its credibility and effectiveness in future health crises.

Takeaways:

  • Dr. Krause resigned from the FDA due to political pressures.

  • The FDA's role is crucial for public health and safety.

  • Transparency in the FDA's processes is essential for public trust.

  • Emergency Use Authorization has different standards than full approval.

  • Vaccine safety surveillance systems need improvement.

  • Political influences can compromise scientific integrity.

  • Clear communication about vaccine risks and benefits is necessary.

  • The FDA must maintain its independence from political pressures.

  • Future reforms should focus on enhancing transparency and accountability.

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Dr. Philip Krause

02:36 Dr. Krause's Journey at the FDA

11:03 The COVID Vaccine Development Process

21:33 The Role of the FDA vs. CDC

42:52 The Approval Process and Myocarditis Concerns

50:46 Understanding Myocarditis Risks and Vaccine Benefits

57:39 The Importance of Transparency in Vaccine Approval

01:00 Pressure for Vaccine Mandates and Public Trust

01:06 The Debate Over Booster Shots

01:12 Leadership Challenges at the FDA

01:27 Resignation and Disillusionment at the FDA

01:37 Transparency and Decision-Making at the FDA

01:47 Political Influences on Public Health Decisions

01:56 Understanding Vaccine Authorization vs. Approval

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Charles Hooper's avatar

I wrote a Substack about this interview. Here's one section:

"I thoroughly enjoyed listening to Krause and I applaud Arora for asking just a few questions and letting Krause talk at length. Krause did a good job—one of the best I’ve ever heard—of explaining what the FDA does and why. Overall, he provided a good justification of the FDA. After listening to him, one is left with the impression that he more fully embodied the FDA’s vision than the FDA itself. Or, to mirror Ronald Reagan’s explanation for why he left the Democratic party, Krause didn’t leave the FDA, the FDA left Krause."

"And yet Krause’s explanations didn’t touch two very big questions that I still have."

Then I get into those two big questions.

https://incidentalinsights.substack.com/p/dr-philip-krause-former-fda-employee

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Rav Arora's avatar

Thanks for this. Great piece, I will share it over the weekend. Email me your phone number and let's connect! (rav1033@yahoo.ca)

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Mike Hunt's avatar

Several times he made the assertion that the vaccination prevented severe disease. I would have been interested in knowing on what basis and data was this opinion based? If this opinion can be reasonably corroborated, did it change with mutation of SARS-CoV-2 from the Delta variant to Omicron?

The politicisation and corruption at the FDA in this instance did not start at the licensing stage, it was already well embedded.

Sadly for him he is a living example of what happens when you open your mouth.

He could have gone on to a lucrative end of career position with a big Pharma company!

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Don Gillis's avatar

Wow! Just seeing ,hearing and (ummh, ummhm ) trying to grasp what this Deputy Director

so haltingly explicated - no wonder FDA is in need of critical reform. my takeaways!

FDA has a critical role in authorizing vaccines? One question -how many dollars does FDA

receive from the vaccine makers? Does he explain or comprehend even this so called vaccine was not by any standard a vaccine - no, it was, is a Gene Therapy. Did he look up the protocols on what that means, as to rules on genetic modification being transfected into everyday humans, without INFORMED CONSENT . He's responsible for determining the safety of a product and he supports concealing "preferential components". EUA: WHY? On whose authority was this implemented - Fauci, Birks, or higher up - (like the NSC,) the National Security Council -(Is he aware , (he did wonder some upper authority was at work) check out Debbie Lerman and Sasha Latypova - Catastrophic Covid.... their investigation would clear up for him the higher authority that was for some time at work. And how this gets transferred to the task force and especially through the DOD arm - Birx, or, how about

the work of David Martin, the patent sleuth. Was he never apprised of his work in tracking the patents related to Coronavirus and the works cited going back to 2001. The work in particular in 2015 by Daszak at Eco Health and Baric at Chapel Hill. Compelling documents

in the unravelling of this Covid travesty as to Public Health actioning. Dr. Kreuse talks about

transparency for decision making - refers to the ACIP, ....did he ever attend one? Thanks to the Highwire we have clear cut evidence as to how that process works. 12 members, of whom 9 are paid workers for the vaccine makers. Listen to their highly reasoned "critical

thinking" vis a vis vaccines! Unholy ,unfiltered bullcrap. I applaud Dr Kreuse for his recognition that Boosters were unnecessary, but his overall thinking is not of a scientist,

but rather a pretender in a high level government office.

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Stephenie's avatar

Great to see you back! Just a head's up, I am not finding this episode on the apple podcast app or spotify. I love to listen on the go!

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Loretta's avatar

Hello. Just a short comment. I am not a scientist nor educated in any respect involving science studies. I do have only common sense and independent reasoning. My question is; If you are scrutinizing medicine or vaccines, wouldn't you also be aware that the illness you are creating a vaccine or medicine for, is severe or almost non-existent? The COVID thing (i am going to call this whatever it was) had almost no fatality ranking. So why in the first place did anyone create a vaccine for something like say--seasonal allergies? Not saying COVID was an allergy at all, just as simplification of severity. We all know what the COVID BS was and why this rush BS to stab every living thing on the planet. So, why didn't the people making this junk, not do something to put a halt on this lie of danger to all humanity?

Too little, too late doctor.

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And he notably resigned in late 2021 over pressure from the White House to approve the new round of boosters. And he testified. Which committee was it again, Dr. Philip Krause?