Hi everyone,
The 3-hour vaccine death debate between Denis and Tracy has now been released! Anyone can access it now here in the Substack app/website or in the Spotify/Apple links below. I hope it helps shape your perspective on this contentious topic.
Takeaways:
Tracy criticizes Denis' paper on the number of deaths caused by COVID vaccines, arguing that the estimate of 17 million deaths is implausible.
Denis defends his paper, explaining the methodology and selection of countries in the study.
The debate becomes heated as they discuss the accusation of cherry-picking countries.
Technical difficulties interrupt the discussion briefly. There are inconsistencies in estimates of excess mortality and the causal link between COVID-19 vaccines and deaths.
Methodology plays a crucial role in determining the accuracy of these estimates.
Accurate information and fact-finding are essential in understanding the impact of COVID-19 vaccines on mortality.
Further discussion and analysis are needed to address the discrepancies between different studies and estimates. There is a temporal association between booster rollouts and excess mortality.
The causes of excess mortality are complex and can vary between countries and age groups.
The peak in mortality after the pandemic announcement is a significant phenomenon that requires further investigation.
Analyzing mortality data in countries without age stratification requires additional considerations.
The consistent association of excess mortality with booster rollouts suggests a potential link.
Quantifying excess mortality and the vaccine dose fatality rate can provide insights into the risk of death. The correlation between vaccine rollout and excess mortality is a topic of debate, with different interpretations and perspectives.
Communication plays a crucial role in conveying scientific findings, and the choice of words and statements can impact public perception.
Traditional methods may not always capture vaccine mortality, and there is a need for more comprehensive data and analysis.
The case of Sweden's excess mortality highlights the complexities of interpreting data and the importance of considering different factors.
Improving data collection and reporting is essential for a better understanding of the impact of vaccines and other interventions. Clear communication and agreement on recording and distribution processes are important in collaborative conversations.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
07:19 Tracy's Criticisms of Denis' Paper
12:20 Denis' Response to Tracy's Criticisms
27:17 Discussion on the Selection of Countries
34:00 Technical Difficulties
38:36 Addressing the Accusation of Cherry Picking
40:18 Excess Mortality and Vaccine Rollout
45:20 Cherry Picking and Projection
49:48 Analyzing Denmark's Data
52:30 Causality and Correlation
58:03 Excess Mortality by Age Group
01:03:36 Temporal Relationship between Vaccination and Mortality
01:10:20 Discussion on Causality and Uncertainties
01:16:01 Clarifying Statements and Limitations
01:19:25 Introduction and Setting the Stage
01:21:15 Inconsistencies in Estimates and Causal Link
01:23:14 Discussion on Methodology and Excess Mortality
01:36:19 Desire for Accurate Information and Fact-Finding
01:45:45 Proposal to Show Additional Graphs and Discuss Discrepancies
01:51:26 Graphs Showing Excess Mortality in Peru
01:54:10 Graphs Showing Excess Mortality by Age Group
01:55:01 Association between booster rollouts and excess mortality
01:59:05 Exploring the causes of excess mortality
02:00:09 Examining the New Zealand data
02:01:10 Consistent association of excess mortality with booster rollouts
02:02:35 Analyzing mortality data in countries without age stratification
02:03:08 Understanding the peak in mortality in Ecuador
02:04:36 Exploring the peak in mortality after the pandemic announcement
02:07:40 Considering the initial vaccine rollout and booster rollout
02:09:53 Comparing excess mortality in different periods
02:11:45 Quantifying excess mortality and vaccine dose fatality rate
02:19:14 Addressing the inconsistency in excess mortality patterns
02:25:36 Examining excess mortality in Sweden
02:35:29 Discussion on Vaccine Rollout and Excess Mortality
02:40:17 Clarifying the Claims and Interpretations
02:46:35 Debate on Communication and Provocative Statements
02:53:07 Why Traditional Methods Don't Pick Up Vaccine Mortality
02:59:59 Sweden's Excess Mortality and Interpretation
03:04:55 The Need for Better Data and Reporting
03:08:26 Debrief and Final Thoughts
Debate Released! Denis Rancourt v. Tracy Beth Hoeg On 17 Million Vaccine Deaths