I started migraines about 45 yo. Years later, I altered diet (almost total elimination of starches) and added a lot of salt+water... migraines all but gone. Gut issue: got e-hist and CC/MC diagnosis at same time the problem arose, and now, the CC/MC problem reacts with certain foods that never caused problems before. Strain/sprained back later, most likely due to loss of minerals and other nutrients due to the CC/MC problem that finally seemed to resolve after 4 years with diet experimentation. Not in "my head"
Yes. The appalling state of research into causes results into this illogical conclusion that “we don’t know what is causing it/we are unable to find a cause, then it can only mean it’s psychological in nature “.
Makes me want to put people through a course on logic and logical fallacies.
Pain always comes from somewhere for some reason. I have learned that most of it is due to something the body lacks. I am my best test subject through the years which have brought me better physical health, mental stability and confidence that with enough study and research, I can find the best solution to most of my health and well-being issues.
I would also suggest, if you’re really honest and willing to dive into this topic, to read Dr Derrick Lonsdale’s book about thiamine, stress, high carb malnutrition and dysautonomia. Also, check out Elliot Overton’s videos and articles.
Intense stress of ANY kind (psychological as in emotional or cognitive stress, physical stress in the form of toxins and pollutants, not enough sunlight, vitamin and mineral deficiencies etc) can and will deplete thiamine in just 20 days. High carb diet is also depleting thiamine because you cannot burn carbs without using thiamine.
And there will be obvious and sometimes devastating consequences on the functioning of the autonomic nervous system and not only that.
My life was ruined by this irrational theory.
I lost 10 years of my life, many of which in worse conditions than criminals on death row. I was refused treatment because “there was nothing physically wrong with me”.
Despite me telling doctors that just having an i.v. saline infusion completely eliminated symptoms that plagued me for 2 years. The doctor rolled his eyes.
I had severe POTS at the time (which is diagnosable objectively) and yes, iv saline is one of the first treatments. After months of diarrhoea which worsens POTS because of hypovolemia. I had the first fainting episode 13 years prior to this hospital stay. Nobody takes an amamnesis, nobody cares about finding physical causes if there’s an easy way out.
All of this because they decided it was adjustment disorder and not a real organic illness. That I was depressed despite me telling them I had no depressive thoughts.
I got a bit of my life back. No longer suffering from very severe ME/CFS. No longer 24/7 migraines for years. No longer bedridden and spending day and night in total darkness just to avoid worsening symptoms.
High dose thiamine, dicalcium phosphate, fixing 20+ years of anemia, fixing copper deficiency that doctors couldn’t help me fix (because they didn’t know I had to take iron for 1.5 years and fix anemia before introducing copper), fixing vitamin D deficiency and many more.
So, doing the right tests will reveal the physical causes and also offer the right interventions for improvement or healing. It can be done.
But you have to do it alone and discard completely a bogus theory born of lazy minds and despise towards women’s physical and emotional weakness.
It happens in POTS dysautonomia (hypovolemia, blood pooling) which can be caused by many things but ultimately intense lonfer/chronic stress that depletes thiamine. Thiamine deficiency = “psychosomatic “ symptoms. You can have enough thiamine circulating in your blood, but suffer from intracelular depletion.
You can also have only some regions in the brain which are depleted in thiamine, as seems to be happening in Parkinson disease.
We don’t have any good ways to measure thiamine deficiency. Nor iron deficiency for that matter. Iron deficiency, untreated, will result also in dysautonomia symptoms and POTS.
So, for further research, Derrick Lonsdale, Chandler Marrs and Elliot Overton’s books, articles, videos.
I would look at your sun exposure first: to include the melatonin for the eye, and hormones precursor hormone "vit D" . But sugars, simple sugars/carbs, are also bad. Of course, stressors in life, can cause anxiety, esp if there is little you can do to remedy the problem. If you get implanted with "its all in your head", that alone would be a stressor causing you to take some pharma to fix that.....then more problems.
I haven't tried this method specifically, but I have tried the Feldenkrais method, which I think is a similar treatment for psychosomatic disorders, and I can attest that it helped relieve pain.
My question: could you cause increased pain, or maybe even damage, by doing somatic tracking when the cause of the pain might be inflammation? My son has occasional bouts of plantar fasciitis and I don't want to suggest he try somatic tracking if there's a chance it will make his condition worse.
i have read the comments below and they mostly trash psychosomatic theory. I agree with them. People keep thinking this theory is new. it isn't. I grew up with it, my parents being friends with up and coming doctors. We always believed that coughs, sneezes, headaches, stomach aches muscle aches were pschosomatic, which worked w cell, since we were relatively healthy.
But in my teens and twenties that began to change. When i was 38, i had a crisis and was told it was all in my head. i learned to do my own research. Long story short, i have wheat allergy, mercury poisoning, chemical sensitivities, low thyroid and morgellons. I got rid of the mercury, avoid wheat and chemicals, take thyroid meds and, since the mercury was chelated out and fillings removed, the morgellons is a nuisance rather than a torment. I am healthier and happier than ever in my life at the age of 76. Hurray for trusting yourself and not waiting for some md to fix you. Oh, and i had a wonderful chiropractor who knew more about supplements, herbs, than most anyone.
Why do you think your inability to find a cause automatically means that it doesn’t exist?
Where’s your scientific approach in this? In the past people with epilepsy were thought to be mentally ill or possessed. Until…people found a way to see the physical and treatable cause.
Countless of times this happened in history.
Where’s your humility?
Where’s your ability to think logically?
You say “This pertains to the realm of disorders where no clear physiological cause can be found (like chronic back pain, digestive issues, chest pain, migraines, tendonitis, etc). “
Just because that clear physiological cause cannot be found easily, it doesn’t necessarily/automatically mean it doesn’t exist. Basic logic.
Migraines are not psychological- something already established. It’s a mitochondrial, neurological and vascular disease, with clear triggers, treatments and so on.
I started migraines about 45 yo. Years later, I altered diet (almost total elimination of starches) and added a lot of salt+water... migraines all but gone. Gut issue: got e-hist and CC/MC diagnosis at same time the problem arose, and now, the CC/MC problem reacts with certain foods that never caused problems before. Strain/sprained back later, most likely due to loss of minerals and other nutrients due to the CC/MC problem that finally seemed to resolve after 4 years with diet experimentation. Not in "my head"
Yes. The appalling state of research into causes results into this illogical conclusion that “we don’t know what is causing it/we are unable to find a cause, then it can only mean it’s psychological in nature “.
Makes me want to put people through a course on logic and logical fallacies.
Pain always comes from somewhere for some reason. I have learned that most of it is due to something the body lacks. I am my best test subject through the years which have brought me better physical health, mental stability and confidence that with enough study and research, I can find the best solution to most of my health and well-being issues.
I would also suggest, if you’re really honest and willing to dive into this topic, to read Dr Derrick Lonsdale’s book about thiamine, stress, high carb malnutrition and dysautonomia. Also, check out Elliot Overton’s videos and articles.
Intense stress of ANY kind (psychological as in emotional or cognitive stress, physical stress in the form of toxins and pollutants, not enough sunlight, vitamin and mineral deficiencies etc) can and will deplete thiamine in just 20 days. High carb diet is also depleting thiamine because you cannot burn carbs without using thiamine.
And there will be obvious and sometimes devastating consequences on the functioning of the autonomic nervous system and not only that.
My life was ruined by this irrational theory.
I lost 10 years of my life, many of which in worse conditions than criminals on death row. I was refused treatment because “there was nothing physically wrong with me”.
Despite me telling doctors that just having an i.v. saline infusion completely eliminated symptoms that plagued me for 2 years. The doctor rolled his eyes.
I had severe POTS at the time (which is diagnosable objectively) and yes, iv saline is one of the first treatments. After months of diarrhoea which worsens POTS because of hypovolemia. I had the first fainting episode 13 years prior to this hospital stay. Nobody takes an amamnesis, nobody cares about finding physical causes if there’s an easy way out.
All of this because they decided it was adjustment disorder and not a real organic illness. That I was depressed despite me telling them I had no depressive thoughts.
I got a bit of my life back. No longer suffering from very severe ME/CFS. No longer 24/7 migraines for years. No longer bedridden and spending day and night in total darkness just to avoid worsening symptoms.
High dose thiamine, dicalcium phosphate, fixing 20+ years of anemia, fixing copper deficiency that doctors couldn’t help me fix (because they didn’t know I had to take iron for 1.5 years and fix anemia before introducing copper), fixing vitamin D deficiency and many more.
So, doing the right tests will reveal the physical causes and also offer the right interventions for improvement or healing. It can be done.
But you have to do it alone and discard completely a bogus theory born of lazy minds and despise towards women’s physical and emotional weakness.
Please read the excellent book:
The Divided Mind by John Sarno
It explains the mechanism of psychosomatic disorders that leads to chronic pain, etc.
The key mechanism is vasorestriction--that reduces blood supply to the affected area.
Good ibservation - reduced blood supply.
It happens in POTS dysautonomia (hypovolemia, blood pooling) which can be caused by many things but ultimately intense lonfer/chronic stress that depletes thiamine. Thiamine deficiency = “psychosomatic “ symptoms. You can have enough thiamine circulating in your blood, but suffer from intracelular depletion.
You can also have only some regions in the brain which are depleted in thiamine, as seems to be happening in Parkinson disease.
We don’t have any good ways to measure thiamine deficiency. Nor iron deficiency for that matter. Iron deficiency, untreated, will result also in dysautonomia symptoms and POTS.
So, for further research, Derrick Lonsdale, Chandler Marrs and Elliot Overton’s books, articles, videos.
I would ask if insomnia can be related to psychosomatic issues.
I would look at your sun exposure first: to include the melatonin for the eye, and hormones precursor hormone "vit D" . But sugars, simple sugars/carbs, are also bad. Of course, stressors in life, can cause anxiety, esp if there is little you can do to remedy the problem. If you get implanted with "its all in your head", that alone would be a stressor causing you to take some pharma to fix that.....then more problems.
I haven't tried this method specifically, but I have tried the Feldenkrais method, which I think is a similar treatment for psychosomatic disorders, and I can attest that it helped relieve pain.
My question: could you cause increased pain, or maybe even damage, by doing somatic tracking when the cause of the pain might be inflammation? My son has occasional bouts of plantar fasciitis and I don't want to suggest he try somatic tracking if there's a chance it will make his condition worse.
i have read the comments below and they mostly trash psychosomatic theory. I agree with them. People keep thinking this theory is new. it isn't. I grew up with it, my parents being friends with up and coming doctors. We always believed that coughs, sneezes, headaches, stomach aches muscle aches were pschosomatic, which worked w cell, since we were relatively healthy.
But in my teens and twenties that began to change. When i was 38, i had a crisis and was told it was all in my head. i learned to do my own research. Long story short, i have wheat allergy, mercury poisoning, chemical sensitivities, low thyroid and morgellons. I got rid of the mercury, avoid wheat and chemicals, take thyroid meds and, since the mercury was chelated out and fillings removed, the morgellons is a nuisance rather than a torment. I am healthier and happier than ever in my life at the age of 76. Hurray for trusting yourself and not waiting for some md to fix you. Oh, and i had a wonderful chiropractor who knew more about supplements, herbs, than most anyone.
My question would be this:
Why do you think your inability to find a cause automatically means that it doesn’t exist?
Where’s your scientific approach in this? In the past people with epilepsy were thought to be mentally ill or possessed. Until…people found a way to see the physical and treatable cause.
Countless of times this happened in history.
Where’s your humility?
Where’s your ability to think logically?
You say “This pertains to the realm of disorders where no clear physiological cause can be found (like chronic back pain, digestive issues, chest pain, migraines, tendonitis, etc). “
Just because that clear physiological cause cannot be found easily, it doesn’t necessarily/automatically mean it doesn’t exist. Basic logic.
Migraines are not psychological- something already established. It’s a mitochondrial, neurological and vascular disease, with clear triggers, treatments and so on.