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Dina Goldin, Ph.D.'s avatar

I drool over the idea of a debate between Alex and Pierre on Ivermectin. Alex's lack of appreciation for the suppression of early treatment and the deleterious effect of this suppression on our public health during the pandemic has really bothered me -- how can one be so awake on so many things, yet so asleep about this? I truly hope that Pierre can wake Alex up.

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SEF's avatar
Jun 7Edited

Totally agree, Alex is DEFINITELY SMART ENOUGH to know that the totality of evidence from gold-standard randomized controlled trials published in the medical literature shows that ivermectin indeed has lifesaving effects in severe COVID. The only legitimate debate is exactly HOW effective it is, as in 30% or 50% or 70% or 90%, etc.- which may vary based on other factors.

https://c19ivm.org/meta.html#fig_fprd

https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8209939/pdf/RMV-32-0.pdf

And furthermore, Alex is DEFINITELY SMART ENOUGH to know that a large number of the clinical trials, especially the higher-budget fancy-acronym trials after ivermectin became heavily politicized in mid-2021, were DESIGNED TO FAIL by having too long treatment delays, too short treatment durations, and too low-risk populations who hardly needed ivermectin to begin with and therefore had minimal room for benefit. This is indisputable when one simply compares the ivermectin clinical trial designs to the Paxlovid or Molnupiravir clinical trial designs. Sad to say, Alex's "ivermectin is useless against COVID" stance HAS TO BE willful ignorance, even though I overall have quite a bit of respect for him.

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bob's avatar

I watched the interview with Alex Berenson and enjoyed thoroughly. Rav --- would you consider one thing? The F bombs are completely unnecessary, and I find listening to an excellent conversaton compromised by profane language. I'm just one listener, but I can't see how using this language adds one iota to the discourse, and for some --- it's alienating. I don't need a safe space, I'm not gonna have a tantrum, but if this is part of the continued discourse, I'd just choose not to listen. Thank you for your consideration.

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marlon1492's avatar

You beat me to it! It's unprofessional in this context.

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Suzie's avatar

Very unprofessional.

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Taz's avatar

I'm way behind in listening, but you took the words right out my mouth!

TOTALLY unnecessary to use foul language in any interview, let alone one trying to be professional.

Takes away from the tenor and tone of the discussion, calls into question what kind of audience you want, what kind of integrity Rav actually has. And if he wants to use foul language in his private home thats fine, but in the public square doesn't he want a professional reputation?

These profane words are, imo, also really really dumb adjectives that anyone who claims to be interested in the English language and being a serious writer or speaker should examine their understanding of grammar and the English language!

But to show a blatant disregard for his diverse listeners shows a big lack of mmaturity. Some politeness to strangers and unknown people in his audience would go a long way. Please aim for the highest standard, not the level of the gutter!

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Dina Goldin, Ph.D.'s avatar

Around 1:05 Alex says that Fauci does not care about your views unless you have a Nobel Prize. I'd like to point out that he does not listen to those with Nobel Prizes either. Witness the French virologist Luc Montagnier, winner of the 2008 Nobel Prize for his virology work. Luc analyzed the covid virus very early on, and concluded that is was man-made. Clearly, this was against Fauci's agenda, so Luc was ignored... Not just ignored, suppressed.... There is also the Great Barrington declaration, which had Nobel Prize laureates among its signatories, where Fauci led a "quick and devastating take down" of it (quoting from Collins' email)... On the other hand, Alex does not listen to Nobel Prize winners either. Witness Prof. Omura, the Japanese scientist who got the 2015 Nobel Prize for inventing IVM. In the Spring of 2021, Omura co-authored a meta-analysis of IVM that concludes: "It is hoped that IVM will be utilized as a countermeasure for Covid as soon as possible. [When] its clinical use is achieved on a global scale, it could prove to be of great benefit to humanity. It may even turn out to be comparable to the benefits achieved from the discovery of penicillin..." Yet Alex still does not believe it.

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RANGER71's avatar

After 4 years and Mr. Alex still clueless on IVM or HCQ. Talk about media bias

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Mary C's avatar

I think that those of us "on the right" don't hate Alex, we love him, we just may disagree with or get frustrated with him at moments. We're different that way :)

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Ruth H's avatar

Your choice as RFK Jr is disappointing. His stance on vaccines is his only redeeming platform. He favors abortion up to birth and other radical Dem ideas and policies. He leans socialist on many views.

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tclepic's avatar

Pretty sure RFKjr does not favor abortion but is personally against abortion -- like Trump, and per the SCOTUS ruling, RFKjr is leaving abortion laws up to the states, and his run for president is avoiding a one-issue-abortion platform like so many failed-miserably republican platforms have been in the past. RFKjr demonstrates his care for by his Children's Health Defense work for YEARS which, for sure, is all about what's best for our childrens' health.

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Ruth H's avatar

He did an interview and said he favored a woman’s right to abortion up to birth. Then when he got kickback he backtracked somewhat but too late to repair his stance.

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Brandy's avatar

My take on the election… to me, it’s obvious that the reason for this sham trial is to secure the attention of the democrat voter towards supporting Biden and to secure the attention of the Republican voter towards supporting Trump. They literally have to be the two least desirable candidates on the face of the planet but yet people can’t not support their candidate.

The only threat to the military industrial complex, who is now working hand in hand with the pharmaceutical industrial complex, would be RFK Jr or the Libertarian front runner. RFK Jr is gaining momentum and that is the absolute worst thing possible for the prevailing powers that are running the government. If Biden or Trump wins, they are both in the pocket of the pharmaceutical industrial complex and the military industrial complex, so it’s a win-win situation.

Trump is the bread and butter of both democrat and republican mainstream media. And I suspect he is the chosen candidate to win the “selection” (aka election). Politically persecuting him is brilliant. He already has a record of horrible leadership during a crisis and yet if they can make him look like the outsider, his popularity will skyrocket. People were asking too many questions about “his vaccine” and he doesn’t have a good answer for any of it. This gets him off the hook. That’s what I see happening.

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Suzie's avatar

Taylor Swift? Seriously? 🙄

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Louise C's avatar

Thank you. Rav lost me when he mentioned the Pop Diva.

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Demeisen's avatar

Sorry, Rav, based on your musical comments, you've been failed by those who've come before you. It's like a kid who's been fed only Pop-Tarts in the 80's as opposed to real food, and likes Pop Tarts.

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Edward J Belanger's avatar

Alex is so dug in on his ivermectin position that he can’t see the forest because of the trees. My guess is he doesn’t change his position on issues when confronted with contradictory information.

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One After 909's avatar

Thank you for a clear and concise summary of the New York documents case

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tclepic's avatar

It is the State Department, DOJ, and FBI who are behind all the senseless lawfare against Trump and many centrists and conservatives (... including 99% of J6ers). If Trump or RFKjr wins, they will need to reform these (and other) agencies to restrict our government's ongoing slide into banana-republic tyranny swamp.

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Pete's avatar

Name the one most "terrible, frightening thing" that President Trump has said. What specifically has he said that is "concerning" to you?

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mule_ear's avatar

I'll wait until it's posted on rumble.

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Koo's avatar

Just wondering if Podcasts are still being posted on Apple and Spotify. May 26 is the last one I see posted.

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Dr. K's avatar

I will continue to whine as I have from the beginning, despite being one of your first supporters. Where is the transcription link to this podcast? You said they will all have a transcription link button, but this and several others do not or else I am not competent in finding them.

Can you help? Thanks

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