Excellent discussion! Like Dr. B, Dr. Kulldorff is worthy of great admiration and respect. History will look back on him as one of a small group of scientists who were brave enough to speak out and tell the truth in the face of almost unspeakable derision and enmity. One point I disagree with, however, is his attitude and reflection on the J & J vaccine pause. While I agree with some of his points in his 4/21 opinion piece in the Hill (i.e. that there shouldn't have been a pause for at-risk elderly patients), I feel that he doesn't give proper weight to the risks to young healthy individuals. In the piece, he notes the oft-repeated statistic of 1/1,000.000 in regard to the CVST risk in those receiving the J & J vaccine. I have a very hard time believing that figure, given that there was a case of CVST in the original J & J study. A healthy 25 yo male suffered a transverse sinus thrombosis shortly after receiving the vaccine. Incredibly, this event was deemed "not related to therapy". The PI's explanation strains credulity:
"Event most likely resulted from multiple pre-disposing factors including pre-existing cerebral sigmoid sinus stenosis that pre-disposed the participant to cerebral venous thrombosis, and an infection with an unknown organism that started 8 days following vaccination, triggering inflammation and a hypercoagulable state. Thrombocytopenia also observed. Subsequent testing identified anti-PF4 antibodies at the time of the event."
If the risk is 1/1.000.000, what is the likelihood of finding a case in 22,000 participants in the vaccine arm? In my humble opinion, the risk benefit ratio for the use of this vaccine (as well as for the mRNA vaccines) never made sense for young healthy people.
I wish this video received more attention. Drs Kulldorff and Bhattacharya are calm, honest, modest, and well-grounded throughout, though the way they were treated was a bit shocking. This makes the video suitable for sharing with friends who still believe the official COVID narrative. A rare gift!
I'm very appreciative of all the counter-narrative COVID information that's been shared by so many, at great personal risk. But unfortunately, most folks over on this side can't help going off the deep end somewhere in every production. Can't blame them either.
The vaccines were not 95 percent effective as advertised. Every vaccine shot lead to variants . There is still a push for a booster three years later. There were countries that used other products to fight Covid effectively. The vaccine should never have been allowed to be used. Side effects have never been published by the government.
I really want Jay, Ray, Martin, et al to become trusted sources for health information. But as much as their disclosures of the truth about the practice of allopathic medicine are helpful and have been helpful for many to understand why the pandemic policies were wrong, they are surface, superficial, treat the symptoms, not the cause of what ails the entire field. Because it's a systemic failure of the allopathic model of health itself.
First of all, there is no such thing as "public health." There's individual health, how well an individual cares for their own body to make it strong enough to survive in a world of microbiological hazards we share the air, water and ground with. Any "public health" policies that shift a burden from the unfit to the fit, from those who eat junk food to those who eat nutritious food, from those who abuse their bodies with drugs and alcohol to those who treat their bodies as temples are completely wrong-headed. "My mask protects you, your mask protects me." Bullshit. "My jab protects you, your jab protects me." Bullshit. You take care of your own health, I take care of my own health, we, the public, is good. Requiring no burden, no sacrifice, no obligation for those who do what we're supposed to do and take care of our bodies other than to continue on with living our best lives, contributing to society as we do in our daily endeavors.
Second, early testing is NOT the answer. All tests are known to not work. PCR tests return false positives in greater and greater numbers the more amplifications it h as. And even dialed down test results only detect presence of a particular genetic strand, no regard for if can replicate or not. PCR's detect dinosaur DNA in fossils. Not dinosaurs.
Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn’t Be.
The usual diagnostic tests may simply be too sensitive and too slow to contain the spread of the virus.
Next, no flu/respiratory vaccine has ever been proven to be effective. Much less safe. None. Even on good years when virologists working with Big Pharma are lucky to get 30% efficacy - by their own untrustworthy studies! Show a single study where cohorts, all things being equal, same demographics, ages, fitness, nutrition, work types (indoor/outdoor), hygiene practices given a vaccine have fewer deaths and severe illnesses than those taking no jab. Not even so-called placebo, which is all of the adjuvants (some demonstrably harmful), not just saline solution. There's no such study that exists. No matter how many times it's asserted by so-called "experts" with multiple degrees from 'prestigious' universities, they don't work.
Even Fauci admitted that in January, 2023. They don't work. They never have. There's an illusion of consensus that they do:
Rethinking next-generation vaccines for coronaviruses, influenzaviruses, and other respiratory viruses
David M. Morens, Jeffery K. Taubenberger, Anthony S. Fauci
Harvard Medical School - Martin Kulldorff's former employer is a prime example of how medical doctors are trained to worship the idea of collective health, greater good utilitarianism, the deification of doctors. A profession that elevates itself as gods, life-givers and life-takers, God Almighty is a mere spectator to most of them. So high and mighty they see themselves as that they assert they have the *right* to rape patients. Yes, rape! They use the euphemism "nonconsensual intimate examinations" to make it all clinical, legitimate. As they sexually assault anesthetized or unconscious patients who haven't signed consent forms to be test subject guinea pigs for medical students to look inside vaginas and fondle breasts, penises and scrotums. Actual hearing from the Massachusetts legislature, a bill introduced to prohibit the practice. The bill passed this hearing, then died on the calendar. The practice of raping patients by medical students and professors continues in MA. And across the nation. Utilitarian ethics serving a "greater good" for the collective:
Massachusetts 2023 H.2146 / S.1333
An Act prohibiting nonconsensual intimate examinations of anesthetized or unconscious patients
The USMLE itself is being dumbed down as we speak. The licensing examination being stripped down to basics that monkeys trained to enter data into WebMD-like systems can print prescriptions for Big Pharma products for any and all patient care. No holistic understanding of human body functioning required. There's a specialist for that, GP's are a thing of the past.
Revisiting the Utility of U.S. Medical Licensing Examination Step 3
"As medical practice has become more specialized, the U.S. Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE) Step 3 has become outdated. In recent years, there have been substantial changes to the USMLE Step examinations, with Step 1 transitioning to pass/fail scoring and the elimination of Step 2 Clinical Skills. These changes bring us to a unique time of reflection on the purpose and structure of Step 3. Considering its history and aims within the current landscape of medical practice and licensure, we believe that the present structure of Step 3 is impractical and burdensome."
Allopathic medicine (aka Rockefeller medicine) is the most dangerous threat to the "public health" of all. Iatrocide (death by doctor) is the 2nd - 3rd leading cause of death. A personality type that is drawn into the field is especially prone to killing "for a greater good." If some die as a result of an "intervention" like vaccines...or poison gas...it will be in service to a declared greater good. That's why German allopathic doctors rushed to join the Nazi party in the early 1930's - before Hitler's rise to power and the Nazi's were still a minority party:
Why did so many German doctors join the Nazi Party early?
International Journal of Law and Psychiatry, October 3, 2012
"During the Weimar Republic in the mid-twentieth century, more than half of all German physicians became early joiners of the Nazi Party, surpassing the party enrollments of all other professions. From early on, the German Medical Society played the most instrumental role in the Nazi medical program, beginning with the marginalization of Jewish physicians, proceeding to coerced “experimentation,” “euthanization,” and sterilization, and culminating in genocide via the medicalization of mass murder of Jews and others caricatured and demonized by Nazi ideology. Given the medical oath to “do no harm,” many postwar ethical analyses have strained to make sense of these seemingly paradoxical atrocities. Why did physicians act in such a manner? Yet few have tried to explain the self-selected Nazi enrollment of such an overwhelming proportion of the German Medical Society in the first place."
Wesley Smith saw it coming (a lot did). Doctors do NOT take the Hippocratic Oath! That's considered a relic of past times. They let us think they do. Pacifies us. An important lie of omission:
Culture of death : the assault on medical ethics in America
"Smith warns that future troubles could be tied to the fact that only 14% of doctors today report having taken the Hippocratic oath to “do no harm.” Smith even recounts episodes of doctors recommending that the old or sick be denied basic treatments which might potentially save life. This enlightening book unmasks unexpected occurrences in the present practice of medicine, and shines light into a future that many of us might not like."
The New England Journal of Medicine itself became a handmaiden to the powerful and wealthy, Big Pharma, as its former editors tried to sound the alarm many years ago:
Allopathic medicine is inherently corrupt and corrupted. Taught and administered to obey protocols, any harms rationalized and justified under utilitarian ethics, in service to a greater good. It is a wholly flawed, completely irredeemable system of health care. Aside from patching up wounds from an assassin's bullets or setting broken bones and internal damage from accidents it is Death Care. Iatrocide. Untrustworthy. Rightfully so.
If Jay and Martin want to rededicate their lives to improve the health and wellness of the public their immense talent and brainpower would be welcome in the complementary and alternative medicine community. Homeopaths, Ayurvedics, Naturopaths, Herbalists, TCM, all of the natural holistic healers do more to save lives than all of the medical doctors combined do. With few, if any deaths resulting. Safe, non-invasive care. That allows individuals to protect their bodies from all of the microbiological hazards we share the earth with. The best public health strategy of all. But there's not a lot of money or prestige in it, no university lounges and laboratories, not enough income to pay for mansions in gated communities, vacations to Europe, multiple cars, country club memberships and all of the accolades and privileges that come with saying "I'm an MD" and the deification and worship that follows that aggrandizing self-description.
Maybe one day they'll come around. Until then they'll continue to grovel and shill for the field they obviously want to be welcomed back into, and the paydays that come with shilling for Big Pharma - just not the Covid vaccine.
I watched it yesterday and is was very good.
Thanks, Iain!
Excellent discussion! Like Dr. B, Dr. Kulldorff is worthy of great admiration and respect. History will look back on him as one of a small group of scientists who were brave enough to speak out and tell the truth in the face of almost unspeakable derision and enmity. One point I disagree with, however, is his attitude and reflection on the J & J vaccine pause. While I agree with some of his points in his 4/21 opinion piece in the Hill (i.e. that there shouldn't have been a pause for at-risk elderly patients), I feel that he doesn't give proper weight to the risks to young healthy individuals. In the piece, he notes the oft-repeated statistic of 1/1,000.000 in regard to the CVST risk in those receiving the J & J vaccine. I have a very hard time believing that figure, given that there was a case of CVST in the original J & J study. A healthy 25 yo male suffered a transverse sinus thrombosis shortly after receiving the vaccine. Incredibly, this event was deemed "not related to therapy". The PI's explanation strains credulity:
"Event most likely resulted from multiple pre-disposing factors including pre-existing cerebral sigmoid sinus stenosis that pre-disposed the participant to cerebral venous thrombosis, and an infection with an unknown organism that started 8 days following vaccination, triggering inflammation and a hypercoagulable state. Thrombocytopenia also observed. Subsequent testing identified anti-PF4 antibodies at the time of the event."
If the risk is 1/1.000.000, what is the likelihood of finding a case in 22,000 participants in the vaccine arm? In my humble opinion, the risk benefit ratio for the use of this vaccine (as well as for the mRNA vaccines) never made sense for young healthy people.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa2101544/suppl_file/nejmoa2101544_appendix.pdf
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I wish this video received more attention. Drs Kulldorff and Bhattacharya are calm, honest, modest, and well-grounded throughout, though the way they were treated was a bit shocking. This makes the video suitable for sharing with friends who still believe the official COVID narrative. A rare gift!
I'm very appreciative of all the counter-narrative COVID information that's been shared by so many, at great personal risk. But unfortunately, most folks over on this side can't help going off the deep end somewhere in every production. Can't blame them either.
This one is clean as a whistle. Thank you.
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Interesting Perspective.
Like Looking At A Forest
Without Trees.
And Two Guys
That Still Manage To Get Lost.
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Could use some better proofreading
Thanks for a good discussion and information.
The vaccines were not effective
The vaccines were not 95 percent effective as advertised. Every vaccine shot lead to variants . There is still a push for a booster three years later. There were countries that used other products to fight Covid effectively. The vaccine should never have been allowed to be used. Side effects have never been published by the government.
A great discussion, thanks
I'm a layman with a solution, so eliminate, incapacitate the eugenicist, profiteering hyena Bill Gates. No?
I really want Jay, Ray, Martin, et al to become trusted sources for health information. But as much as their disclosures of the truth about the practice of allopathic medicine are helpful and have been helpful for many to understand why the pandemic policies were wrong, they are surface, superficial, treat the symptoms, not the cause of what ails the entire field. Because it's a systemic failure of the allopathic model of health itself.
First of all, there is no such thing as "public health." There's individual health, how well an individual cares for their own body to make it strong enough to survive in a world of microbiological hazards we share the air, water and ground with. Any "public health" policies that shift a burden from the unfit to the fit, from those who eat junk food to those who eat nutritious food, from those who abuse their bodies with drugs and alcohol to those who treat their bodies as temples are completely wrong-headed. "My mask protects you, your mask protects me." Bullshit. "My jab protects you, your jab protects me." Bullshit. You take care of your own health, I take care of my own health, we, the public, is good. Requiring no burden, no sacrifice, no obligation for those who do what we're supposed to do and take care of our bodies other than to continue on with living our best lives, contributing to society as we do in our daily endeavors.
Second, early testing is NOT the answer. All tests are known to not work. PCR tests return false positives in greater and greater numbers the more amplifications it h as. And even dialed down test results only detect presence of a particular genetic strand, no regard for if can replicate or not. PCR's detect dinosaur DNA in fossils. Not dinosaurs.
Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn’t Be.
The usual diagnostic tests may simply be too sensitive and too slow to contain the spread of the virus.
New York Times, August 29, 2020
https://archive.fo/6s7F1
Next, no flu/respiratory vaccine has ever been proven to be effective. Much less safe. None. Even on good years when virologists working with Big Pharma are lucky to get 30% efficacy - by their own untrustworthy studies! Show a single study where cohorts, all things being equal, same demographics, ages, fitness, nutrition, work types (indoor/outdoor), hygiene practices given a vaccine have fewer deaths and severe illnesses than those taking no jab. Not even so-called placebo, which is all of the adjuvants (some demonstrably harmful), not just saline solution. There's no such study that exists. No matter how many times it's asserted by so-called "experts" with multiple degrees from 'prestigious' universities, they don't work.
Even Fauci admitted that in January, 2023. They don't work. They never have. There's an illusion of consensus that they do:
Rethinking next-generation vaccines for coronaviruses, influenzaviruses, and other respiratory viruses
David M. Morens, Jeffery K. Taubenberger, Anthony S. Fauci
Cell Host Microbe, January 11, 2023
https://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/fulltext/S1931-3128(22)00572-8
Harvard Medical School - Martin Kulldorff's former employer is a prime example of how medical doctors are trained to worship the idea of collective health, greater good utilitarianism, the deification of doctors. A profession that elevates itself as gods, life-givers and life-takers, God Almighty is a mere spectator to most of them. So high and mighty they see themselves as that they assert they have the *right* to rape patients. Yes, rape! They use the euphemism "nonconsensual intimate examinations" to make it all clinical, legitimate. As they sexually assault anesthetized or unconscious patients who haven't signed consent forms to be test subject guinea pigs for medical students to look inside vaginas and fondle breasts, penises and scrotums. Actual hearing from the Massachusetts legislature, a bill introduced to prohibit the practice. The bill passed this hearing, then died on the calendar. The practice of raping patients by medical students and professors continues in MA. And across the nation. Utilitarian ethics serving a "greater good" for the collective:
Massachusetts 2023 H.2146 / S.1333
An Act prohibiting nonconsensual intimate examinations of anesthetized or unconscious patients
Committee on Public Health, 9/20/2023
https://malegislature.gov/Events/Hearings/Detail/4682
(Timestamp Begin 03:24:40 - 03:34:30 End)
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(con't from above)
The USMLE itself is being dumbed down as we speak. The licensing examination being stripped down to basics that monkeys trained to enter data into WebMD-like systems can print prescriptions for Big Pharma products for any and all patient care. No holistic understanding of human body functioning required. There's a specialist for that, GP's are a thing of the past.
Revisiting the Utility of U.S. Medical Licensing Examination Step 3
American College of Physicians
Annals of Internal Medicine, July, 2023
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M23-0695
"As medical practice has become more specialized, the U.S. Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE) Step 3 has become outdated. In recent years, there have been substantial changes to the USMLE Step examinations, with Step 1 transitioning to pass/fail scoring and the elimination of Step 2 Clinical Skills. These changes bring us to a unique time of reflection on the purpose and structure of Step 3. Considering its history and aims within the current landscape of medical practice and licensure, we believe that the present structure of Step 3 is impractical and burdensome."
Allopathic medicine (aka Rockefeller medicine) is the most dangerous threat to the "public health" of all. Iatrocide (death by doctor) is the 2nd - 3rd leading cause of death. A personality type that is drawn into the field is especially prone to killing "for a greater good." If some die as a result of an "intervention" like vaccines...or poison gas...it will be in service to a declared greater good. That's why German allopathic doctors rushed to join the Nazi party in the early 1930's - before Hitler's rise to power and the Nazi's were still a minority party:
Why did so many German doctors join the Nazi Party early?
International Journal of Law and Psychiatry, October 3, 2012
https://sci-hub.se/http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.ijlp.2012.09.022
"During the Weimar Republic in the mid-twentieth century, more than half of all German physicians became early joiners of the Nazi Party, surpassing the party enrollments of all other professions. From early on, the German Medical Society played the most instrumental role in the Nazi medical program, beginning with the marginalization of Jewish physicians, proceeding to coerced “experimentation,” “euthanization,” and sterilization, and culminating in genocide via the medicalization of mass murder of Jews and others caricatured and demonized by Nazi ideology. Given the medical oath to “do no harm,” many postwar ethical analyses have strained to make sense of these seemingly paradoxical atrocities. Why did physicians act in such a manner? Yet few have tried to explain the self-selected Nazi enrollment of such an overwhelming proportion of the German Medical Society in the first place."
Wesley Smith saw it coming (a lot did). Doctors do NOT take the Hippocratic Oath! That's considered a relic of past times. They let us think they do. Pacifies us. An important lie of omission:
Culture of death : the assault on medical ethics in America
Wesley A Smith, 2000
https://archive.org/details/cultureofdeath00wesl
Smith's Follow up book:
Culture of Death, The Age of "Do Harm" Medicine
Discovery Institute, 2016
https://www.discovery.org/b/culture-of-death/
"Smith warns that future troubles could be tied to the fact that only 14% of doctors today report having taken the Hippocratic oath to “do no harm.” Smith even recounts episodes of doctors recommending that the old or sick be denied basic treatments which might potentially save life. This enlightening book unmasks unexpected occurrences in the present practice of medicine, and shines light into a future that many of us might not like."
The New England Journal of Medicine itself became a handmaiden to the powerful and wealthy, Big Pharma, as its former editors tried to sound the alarm many years ago:
A Drumbeat on Profit Takers
New York Times, March 19, 2012
https://web.archive.org/web/20140422235932/http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/20/science/a-drumbeat-on-profit-takers.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all
Allopathic medicine is inherently corrupt and corrupted. Taught and administered to obey protocols, any harms rationalized and justified under utilitarian ethics, in service to a greater good. It is a wholly flawed, completely irredeemable system of health care. Aside from patching up wounds from an assassin's bullets or setting broken bones and internal damage from accidents it is Death Care. Iatrocide. Untrustworthy. Rightfully so.
If Jay and Martin want to rededicate their lives to improve the health and wellness of the public their immense talent and brainpower would be welcome in the complementary and alternative medicine community. Homeopaths, Ayurvedics, Naturopaths, Herbalists, TCM, all of the natural holistic healers do more to save lives than all of the medical doctors combined do. With few, if any deaths resulting. Safe, non-invasive care. That allows individuals to protect their bodies from all of the microbiological hazards we share the earth with. The best public health strategy of all. But there's not a lot of money or prestige in it, no university lounges and laboratories, not enough income to pay for mansions in gated communities, vacations to Europe, multiple cars, country club memberships and all of the accolades and privileges that come with saying "I'm an MD" and the deification and worship that follows that aggrandizing self-description.
Maybe one day they'll come around. Until then they'll continue to grovel and shill for the field they obviously want to be welcomed back into, and the paydays that come with shilling for Big Pharma - just not the Covid vaccine.