"There was some confusion judging by the comments about the logistics. This was not a live event, but a pre-recorded one.".
Hmm, I wonder why there was some confusion? Could it be possible that you weren't clear? I mean telling everyone that there is going to be a debate tonight and it will be available on this channel, what do you suppose we all thought?
In addition, your "cross post" tonight, only exists in my email, not in your substack site.
I just realized that I used the word "tonight" in two different ways. One was referring to yesterday's flurry of activitiy and the second one was referring to your email of tonight, i.e., January 21st.
I'm really sorry, but how we are supposed to believe that this is balanced and open-minded, when Rav has clearly indicated that he does not think the vaccine has killed anywhere near 17 million, and this is what Kevin has said about vaccine deaths: https://twitter.com/kevinnbass/status/1654273723531407360.
(I am not stating an opinion on the "17 million" figure, but just saying that this debate seems extremely imbalanced and impartial from the start. Sorry to say.)
When you say that you do not thing that anywhere near 17 million have been killed, that is not open-minded, and it's actually possible to have a fully open mind where, from the get-go, you say that you don't have any idea how many have been killed. The test is not whether you can be persuaded, it's whether you need more evidence to be persuaded one way than the other way.
I agree, and I appreciate Rav's response, but I just have a very hard time believing this is open-minded and impartial when he used terms like "anti-vax conspiracism" and "sensational" in his original critique of the "17 million" figure two days ago. And Kevin saying he is open to vaccine adverse reactions but "just not deaths" is about as closed-minded as it can possibly get. I'm sorry.
I'm sure millions died from the mRNA injection. But right now the focus needs to be stopping the WHO Pandemic Treaty which will enslave the planet and usher in the 2nd Plandemic.
It is obvious that Biden is sending no one because he just wants to see the Pandemic Treaty Pass. He is a globalist and is doing this on purpose. And Disease X will probably be released soon to start the next global plandemic. Any one behind this demonic treaty should be tried for treason. Frankly I think that a global revolution is now unavoidable. But hey that's just me. . . and millions of others. We've had it and are not going to take this shit any longer. Enough is enough. If we allow this Pandemic Treaty, Digital ID, Digital Currency (CBDCs) etc. to be implemented we will soon be nothing more than slaves on a global plantation. I won't allow that for either my children or grandchildren.
Thoughts?
In my version of the Garden of Eden one should always be encouraged to eat from the tree of knowledge but should never meddle with the tree of life as that is above the pay grade of ANY human: past, present or future. Think of the sorcerers apprentice and all the unanticipated problems his meddling created. Those of us that understand the complexity of the global ecosystem tend to abide by the precautionary principle. The globalists have the audacity to think they can meddle with the Tree of Life with no consequence. They they seem to abide by the "Let's just do shit and see what happens" principle. I can't seem to find an antonym for the Precautionary Principle.
Our globalist corporations have obviously ignored this warning as GMO farming began/expanded in the early 1990's. Using CRISPR and other cutting edge technologies they have meddled with the tree of life: terminator seeds, plants that produce insecticides (which we eat), spraying plants with Glyphosate etc. Already it is clear these technologies are causing harm to human health. Then we have fluoride in the water supply, endocrine disruptors, PFAS chemicals etc., in or food and water. None of this makes sense and represents a willful refusal to consider what our collective knowledge (e.g., the tree of knowledge) should be telling us about the harm these substances unleash on the human population. But is goes on unabated because global corporations can profit in the short run.
Then came the Plandemic and the mRNA vaccines the did not prevent infection/transmission but did cause considerable harm and death. Worse yet there is growing evidence that these mRNA injections may actually be modifying our DNA and the consequences are just beginning to be understood. Of course this has all been ignored by globalist corporate media. And over the past year I have read numerous papers about self assembly nanobots within the vaccines and much more. I've yet to write about this subject as, at first, I was a skeptic. But perhaps it is time to cover the subject because there is plenty of evidence/papers etc. which suggest the globalists want to use mRNA concoctions in conjunction with 5G EMF radiation to control our moods and literally allow the government to get inside our heads. And thanks to the author for detailing the programs that are already underway.
It is now obvious that the WEF, UN, WHO etc. want full control of humanity. They aren't even shy about their plans: a Great Reset where you will own nothing (and really won't be happy at all). And it is all spelled out in Agenda21, Agenda2030, the Sustainable Development Goals (SDG's). They have very complex plans to exert control of every human on planet Earth. Their goal is a fully controlled global population -- which will relegate every human to the status of a slave on a globalist plantation.
WE THE PEOPLE, of planet Earth, need to immediately unite behind our own complex agenda in order to stop this globalist coup. To that end I've put together what I call the "Put People First" agenda, which has developed over the past 5 years. I'm encouraging everyone to endorse this agenda and cite your support at City Council, School Board meetings as well as during protests. As Benjamin Franklin once said at the signing of the Declaration of Independence: "We must all hang together, or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." Here is the PPF agenda as it currently exists:
* No Lockdowns EVER again
* No forced masking ANYWHERE
* No forced vaccinations under ANY circumstance
* Absolutely no vaccine passports or digital currency
* Reinstate all of those that lost jobs for refusing to get the mRNA injection, including all of our Healthcare workers
* Universal non-coercive choice: Wearing a mask or getting a mRNA injection will be up to each individual and there will be ABSOLUTELY no penalty for not complying in or out of the workplace.
* No more censorship of ANYONE whether that be on social media, corporate media or at the workplace. No one should ever be censored or punished for exercising their First Amendment Right to Free Speech.
* Impeach Biden/Harris and reinstate Trump as our president.
* Stop the LGBTQ and CRT indoctrination in our schools and corporations
* Stop the Climate Agenda and make Energy Independence Priority Number One.
* Send every Illegal Alien, that Biden has brought in through Open Borders, back home.
* Stop the illegal mass imigration invasion worldwide
* Legalize the personal cultivation of Cannabis, Psilocybin.
* Legalize the right to take Ivermectin, Hydrochloriquine and other anti-viral herbs and drugs
* Legalize the right to choose when it comes to vaccines, abortion, drugs etc.
* Eliminate Genetically modified vaccines, plants, animals (fish, cattle etc.) and the use of Glyphosate.
* Eliminate the use of Geoengineering: Chemtrails, HAARP etc.* Eliminate the fluoridation of our water supply.
* Stop allowing Blackrock, and other financial institutions from buying up residential properties which will make it impossible for future families to own a home and build up equity.
* Demand your government defund and exit the UN, WHO and WEF
The first priority needs to be stopping the shots. If nothing else, stop giving them to people under the age of 40 and definitely under the age of 25. The greatest Covid scandal right now is that our health establishment in America is still encouraging children and young adults to get these unsafe and ineffective non-vaccines.
Hi Jack, I think that his heart is/was in the right place, but the notice for this was written in a hurry. I am not affiliated with their Substack, but I am a big supporter, of these guys and REACT-19, so I ask you please, to just cut them some slack. 😁
I think that his heart is/was in the right place, but the notice for this was written in a hurry. I am not affiliated with their Substack, but I am a big supporter, of these guys and REACT-19, so I ask you please, to just cut them some slack. 😁
I subscribed (paid monthly) too, but can't find out how to watch live. According to the email I received from Steve Kirsch,
"To help play a small part in serving those wronged by public health authorities, we will be donating 20% of all yearly ($80) or founding member ($250 or more) generated from this 48-hour-paywalled debate to React19 - a charity devoted to helping those injured by the mRNA shots."
Does this mean, for paid subscribers, it should be available: (a) Now; (b) After 48 hours; (c) Only if you pay an additional fee?
I'm very disappointed that this discriminates against people who cannot afford to watch it. It is too important to not be available to everyone. This happens so much. If we work for humanity, we have to find another way to make money, surely? That's how I do it. And sure it's harder but nothing is more important than raising humanity and getting us out of this trap.
It will be available for free in a few days. Like many subscription authors, they release content early to paying folks, then a few days/weeks later for free. Everyone got to make a living somehow
Ok well I can wait. Yes we all have to make a living. I too am a freedom activist but I realize that money is THE problem (can I emphasize that enough!) so we have to not fall into its trap. We have to find other ways of making money because what happens is we end up relyung on money (banker's money I'm referring to) and thus never look for alternatives. And we should be leading by example since we have the knowledge. When I say this it causes some dissonance but that's because we don't want to change. I do appreciate howeer that we can comment without being a paide subscriber, which is the right thing to do.
There is a possible issue with the "17 million" covid injection deaths. Bret said Pfizer data showed 1 in 800 "Serious Adverse Events," which includes death, per shot (not per person).
13.53 billion shots given worldwide according to the Gates-funded Our World in Data.
So that equals 16.9 million. But is it 1 in 800 deaths or 1 in 800 serious adverse events?
Not having a serious adverse event, by the way, does not mean no subclinical events that kill you down the road.
"Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest of 10.1 and 15.1 per 10,000 vaccinated over placebo baselines." So (10 + 15)/2 = 12.5 per 10,000 = .00125 = 1 in 800.
So serious adverse events of special interest , not deaths. Also, that looks like vaccinated people, not vaccinations given, so the covid injection deaths will be much lower than 17,000,000.
Here's the original Carlson-Weinstein interview - a brilliantly clear exposition of what's happened.
But that's based on healthy trial participants. By that logic, COVID deaths would also be exponentially lower than documented, as there were only 5 COVID deaths even in the PLACEBO groups totaling 37,000 people across the Pfizer and Moderna trials.
Not necessarily. The production process changed from the lots used during clinical trials, to what was distributed around the world. Have you been tracking any of the Plasmid DNA contamination findings after the switch to "Process 2"? The adverse effects profile is unknown, and long term data not available from the clinical trials.
The Safety Platform for Emergency vACcines (SPEAC) Project has generated a list of adverse events of special interest (AESI) for safety monitoring based on one or more of the following criteria:
1) known association with immunization or a specific vaccine platform;
2) theoretical association based on animal models;
3) occurrence during wild-type disease as a result of viral replication and/or immunopathogenesis.
Our biggest problems are no independent and unbiased data collection looking for signals. No diagnostic tests available to people who want them (although Dr. Phillip Buckhaults has one) and no dot connecting. People who have died of cancer or just been diagnosed with an autoimmune disease. They can’t say with any credibility that there’s no correlation without a gawd damn diagnostic test!!!
What time is the debate? I just signed up as a paid subscriber... and it will be live on your podcast feed?
It’s not live. Will be available afterwards at some point.
Paid members will have access first.
"There was some confusion judging by the comments about the logistics. This was not a live event, but a pre-recorded one.".
Hmm, I wonder why there was some confusion? Could it be possible that you weren't clear? I mean telling everyone that there is going to be a debate tonight and it will be available on this channel, what do you suppose we all thought?
In addition, your "cross post" tonight, only exists in my email, not in your substack site.
I just realized that I used the word "tonight" in two different ways. One was referring to yesterday's flurry of activitiy and the second one was referring to your email of tonight, i.e., January 21st.
On Kevin Bass's recent tweet it says that the debate will be made available 'almost as soon as we have finished recording' -- just found this
So it isn't really "live"
This, after frantically looking for the link. I feel like a chump, here.
I was expecting a live event, in real time.
Same
Weird how everyone is an expert now based on opinion. The data exists in the dead and maimed following the shots.
I'm really sorry, but how we are supposed to believe that this is balanced and open-minded, when Rav has clearly indicated that he does not think the vaccine has killed anywhere near 17 million, and this is what Kevin has said about vaccine deaths: https://twitter.com/kevinnbass/status/1654273723531407360.
(I am not stating an opinion on the "17 million" figure, but just saying that this debate seems extremely imbalanced and impartial from the start. Sorry to say.)
Kevin and I have promised keeping as open of a mind as possible.
I don't know how many people have been killed by the vaccine. 2 million? 20 million? I can be persuaded either way.
When you say that you do not thing that anywhere near 17 million have been killed, that is not open-minded, and it's actually possible to have a fully open mind where, from the get-go, you say that you don't have any idea how many have been killed. The test is not whether you can be persuaded, it's whether you need more evidence to be persuaded one way than the other way.
I agree, and I appreciate Rav's response, but I just have a very hard time believing this is open-minded and impartial when he used terms like "anti-vax conspiracism" and "sensational" in his original critique of the "17 million" figure two days ago. And Kevin saying he is open to vaccine adverse reactions but "just not deaths" is about as closed-minded as it can possibly get. I'm sorry.
Whaaat?! Bummed he said that.
Let's US be open-minded, don't pre-judge, and let's see how it goes.
We can pass judgment after we've heard the arguments.
Check my analysis out for a pretty balanced view: https://usmortality.substack.com/p/my-response-to-tracy-beth-hegs-response
I saw it and I "loved" it (I hate the tragic number of excess deaths, but I LOVED the quality of your analysis)! Really really good!
Rav is not debating. Tracey Beth and Dennis are.
I'm sure millions died from the mRNA injection. But right now the focus needs to be stopping the WHO Pandemic Treaty which will enslave the planet and usher in the 2nd Plandemic.
It is obvious that Biden is sending no one because he just wants to see the Pandemic Treaty Pass. He is a globalist and is doing this on purpose. And Disease X will probably be released soon to start the next global plandemic. Any one behind this demonic treaty should be tried for treason. Frankly I think that a global revolution is now unavoidable. But hey that's just me. . . and millions of others. We've had it and are not going to take this shit any longer. Enough is enough. If we allow this Pandemic Treaty, Digital ID, Digital Currency (CBDCs) etc. to be implemented we will soon be nothing more than slaves on a global plantation. I won't allow that for either my children or grandchildren.
Thoughts?
In my version of the Garden of Eden one should always be encouraged to eat from the tree of knowledge but should never meddle with the tree of life as that is above the pay grade of ANY human: past, present or future. Think of the sorcerers apprentice and all the unanticipated problems his meddling created. Those of us that understand the complexity of the global ecosystem tend to abide by the precautionary principle. The globalists have the audacity to think they can meddle with the Tree of Life with no consequence. They they seem to abide by the "Let's just do shit and see what happens" principle. I can't seem to find an antonym for the Precautionary Principle.
Our globalist corporations have obviously ignored this warning as GMO farming began/expanded in the early 1990's. Using CRISPR and other cutting edge technologies they have meddled with the tree of life: terminator seeds, plants that produce insecticides (which we eat), spraying plants with Glyphosate etc. Already it is clear these technologies are causing harm to human health. Then we have fluoride in the water supply, endocrine disruptors, PFAS chemicals etc., in or food and water. None of this makes sense and represents a willful refusal to consider what our collective knowledge (e.g., the tree of knowledge) should be telling us about the harm these substances unleash on the human population. But is goes on unabated because global corporations can profit in the short run.
Then came the Plandemic and the mRNA vaccines the did not prevent infection/transmission but did cause considerable harm and death. Worse yet there is growing evidence that these mRNA injections may actually be modifying our DNA and the consequences are just beginning to be understood. Of course this has all been ignored by globalist corporate media. And over the past year I have read numerous papers about self assembly nanobots within the vaccines and much more. I've yet to write about this subject as, at first, I was a skeptic. But perhaps it is time to cover the subject because there is plenty of evidence/papers etc. which suggest the globalists want to use mRNA concoctions in conjunction with 5G EMF radiation to control our moods and literally allow the government to get inside our heads. And thanks to the author for detailing the programs that are already underway.
It is now obvious that the WEF, UN, WHO etc. want full control of humanity. They aren't even shy about their plans: a Great Reset where you will own nothing (and really won't be happy at all). And it is all spelled out in Agenda21, Agenda2030, the Sustainable Development Goals (SDG's). They have very complex plans to exert control of every human on planet Earth. Their goal is a fully controlled global population -- which will relegate every human to the status of a slave on a globalist plantation.
WE THE PEOPLE, of planet Earth, need to immediately unite behind our own complex agenda in order to stop this globalist coup. To that end I've put together what I call the "Put People First" agenda, which has developed over the past 5 years. I'm encouraging everyone to endorse this agenda and cite your support at City Council, School Board meetings as well as during protests. As Benjamin Franklin once said at the signing of the Declaration of Independence: "We must all hang together, or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." Here is the PPF agenda as it currently exists:
* No Lockdowns EVER again
* No forced masking ANYWHERE
* No forced vaccinations under ANY circumstance
* Absolutely no vaccine passports or digital currency
* Reinstate all of those that lost jobs for refusing to get the mRNA injection, including all of our Healthcare workers
* Universal non-coercive choice: Wearing a mask or getting a mRNA injection will be up to each individual and there will be ABSOLUTELY no penalty for not complying in or out of the workplace.
* No more censorship of ANYONE whether that be on social media, corporate media or at the workplace. No one should ever be censored or punished for exercising their First Amendment Right to Free Speech.
* Impeach Biden/Harris and reinstate Trump as our president.
* Stop the LGBTQ and CRT indoctrination in our schools and corporations
* Stop the Climate Agenda and make Energy Independence Priority Number One.
* Send every Illegal Alien, that Biden has brought in through Open Borders, back home.
* Stop the illegal mass imigration invasion worldwide
* Legalize the personal cultivation of Cannabis, Psilocybin.
* Legalize the right to take Ivermectin, Hydrochloriquine and other anti-viral herbs and drugs
* Legalize the right to choose when it comes to vaccines, abortion, drugs etc.
* Eliminate Genetically modified vaccines, plants, animals (fish, cattle etc.) and the use of Glyphosate.
* Eliminate the use of Geoengineering: Chemtrails, HAARP etc.* Eliminate the fluoridation of our water supply.
* Stop allowing Blackrock, and other financial institutions from buying up residential properties which will make it impossible for future families to own a home and build up equity.
* Demand your government defund and exit the UN, WHO and WEF
https://brucecain.substack.com/p/could-the-nationwide-emergency-alert
The first priority needs to be stopping the shots. If nothing else, stop giving them to people under the age of 40 and definitely under the age of 25. The greatest Covid scandal right now is that our health establishment in America is still encouraging children and young adults to get these unsafe and ineffective non-vaccines.
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/three-more-scandals-for-our-never?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
A mention of the start time would be helpful…🙄
Hi Jack, I think that his heart is/was in the right place, but the notice for this was written in a hurry. I am not affiliated with their Substack, but I am a big supporter, of these guys and REACT-19, so I ask you please, to just cut them some slack. 😁
A start time for the latest podcast would help….
It’s not live. We are recording now. Will release later!
It’s not live!
I think that his heart is/was in the right place, but the notice for this was written in a hurry. I am not affiliated with their Substack, but I am a big supporter, of these guys and REACT-19, so I ask you please, to just cut them some slack. 😁
So I just subscribed but don’t see the link to the debate. What am I doing wrong??
I subscribed (paid monthly) too, but can't find out how to watch live. According to the email I received from Steve Kirsch,
"To help play a small part in serving those wronged by public health authorities, we will be donating 20% of all yearly ($80) or founding member ($250 or more) generated from this 48-hour-paywalled debate to React19 - a charity devoted to helping those injured by the mRNA shots."
Does this mean, for paid subscribers, it should be available: (a) Now; (b) After 48 hours; (c) Only if you pay an additional fee?
Not live, but play a day or two later to those who have bought a year subscription ($80) with 20% of that cost going to react 19.
I clicked on the React19 thing but nothing comes up to tell me how to donate. I have never been much of a donator but this is different.
THANK YOU!!!! REACT-19 is an amazing organization.
Is it publicly available after 48 hours?
Yes
How do I watch live?
Not live! Available in 48 hours
Thank you Rav!
I'm already subscribed at the $80/yr level. Just wondering where the link is to the live show. I'll keep looking! :-)
I understand it will be posted in 48 hours.
I'm very disappointed that this discriminates against people who cannot afford to watch it. It is too important to not be available to everyone. This happens so much. If we work for humanity, we have to find another way to make money, surely? That's how I do it. And sure it's harder but nothing is more important than raising humanity and getting us out of this trap.
It will be available for free in a few days. Like many subscription authors, they release content early to paying folks, then a few days/weeks later for free. Everyone got to make a living somehow
Ok well I can wait. Yes we all have to make a living. I too am a freedom activist but I realize that money is THE problem (can I emphasize that enough!) so we have to not fall into its trap. We have to find other ways of making money because what happens is we end up relyung on money (banker's money I'm referring to) and thus never look for alternatives. And we should be leading by example since we have the knowledge. When I say this it causes some dissonance but that's because we don't want to change. I do appreciate howeer that we can comment without being a paide subscriber, which is the right thing to do.
Agreed, not a fan of the substacks where you can only comment if paying subscribers
Hi all, please also check out my detailed response to Tracy's article!
https://usmortality.substack.com/p/my-response-to-tracy-beth-hegs-response
There is a possible issue with the "17 million" covid injection deaths. Bret said Pfizer data showed 1 in 800 "Serious Adverse Events," which includes death, per shot (not per person).
13.53 billion shots given worldwide according to the Gates-funded Our World in Data.
So that equals 16.9 million. But is it 1 in 800 deaths or 1 in 800 serious adverse events?
Not having a serious adverse event, by the way, does not mean no subclinical events that kill you down the road.
Serious Adverse Events
He was referring to this paper here:
Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055877/
Thank you for posting this link. Very helpful!
Excellent.
"Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest of 10.1 and 15.1 per 10,000 vaccinated over placebo baselines." So (10 + 15)/2 = 12.5 per 10,000 = .00125 = 1 in 800.
So serious adverse events of special interest , not deaths. Also, that looks like vaccinated people, not vaccinations given, so the covid injection deaths will be much lower than 17,000,000.
Here's the original Carlson-Weinstein interview - a brilliantly clear exposition of what's happened.
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1743405833667371329?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
But that's based on healthy trial participants. By that logic, COVID deaths would also be exponentially lower than documented, as there were only 5 COVID deaths even in the PLACEBO groups totaling 37,000 people across the Pfizer and Moderna trials.
Not necessarily. The production process changed from the lots used during clinical trials, to what was distributed around the world. Have you been tracking any of the Plasmid DNA contamination findings after the switch to "Process 2"? The adverse effects profile is unknown, and long term data not available from the clinical trials.
https://soniaelijah.substack.com/p/beyond-contamination-pfizerbiontech
I'm really curious as to what qualifies as a "serious adverse event of special interest" as opposed to just regular adverse events.
The Safety Platform for Emergency vACcines (SPEAC) Project has generated a list of adverse events of special interest (AESI) for safety monitoring based on one or more of the following criteria:
1) known association with immunization or a specific vaccine platform;
2) theoretical association based on animal models;
3) occurrence during wild-type disease as a result of viral replication and/or immunopathogenesis.
chrome-extension://oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/https://brightoncollaboration.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/SO2_D2.1.2_V1.2_COVID-19_AESI-update_V1.3-1.pdf
Our biggest problems are no independent and unbiased data collection looking for signals. No diagnostic tests available to people who want them (although Dr. Phillip Buckhaults has one) and no dot connecting. People who have died of cancer or just been diagnosed with an autoimmune disease. They can’t say with any credibility that there’s no correlation without a gawd damn diagnostic test!!!
Wow. The word "live" is really messing with us all. I had to wipe my salivating mouth...
Rav, How do you put out an announcement with no time or link?
I paid a while back. I want to see this.
What time?
Where do I go?
It’s not live! Pre-recording now. Will be available soon…
Did you ever consider doing a live event for subscribers? Subscribers would absolutley love it and flood in.