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nancy roberts's avatar

What a relief to hear such an open, honest conversation about the dark underbelly of how things actually are. Prayers for you guys.

"But may the God of all grace, who called us to His eternal glory by Jesus Christ, after you have suffered a while, PERFECT, ESTABLISH, STRENGTHEN and SETTLE you." 1 Peter 5:10

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Sharon Rukin's avatar

It is Not about being famous or revered for intellect. Rather it is about helping one another grow and evolve. Achieving those sorts of insights is the point of the painful experiences described by Jay and Russell.

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Tricia's avatar

Great interview! I used to think RB was such a nitwit during his “Socialist” phase several years ago. He is so refreshingly honest now and I believe spot on, onso many things.

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Brenda Dyson's avatar

The silver lining of this pandemic and the authoritarian measures thrust upon us is that we get to listen to a podcast of such an eclectic crew who have found a common thread of humanitarianism, intellect and wisdom. Seeing that such gems in the human race have found a voice and platform to express what many of us think or feel or wish to learn it even more of a reason that we must resist those who wish to silence and suppress us. We all need to continue being heard and continue to listen. Thank you so much for sharing your insights.

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KFH's avatar

can we see the conversation?

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