Mark Cuban is an idiot. To continue to debate him implies that he has a legitimate thoughts and opinions. Rav doesn't call him out on his stupidity, which makes these discussions painful and worthless to watch.
I joined this substack because of Dr. Jay. Now we have debates I don't want to watch. Stop giving Mark Cuban a voice.
I disagree. It's important to debate people with large platforms (and resources, in his case) who influence politics and business. This was a critical discussion on core issues of Big Pharma, civil liberties, bodily autonomy etc.
What you said is only true if you win the debate. Since you let Mark Cuban slide on many issues, it is worse to have the debate because it gives him a platform and some of your viewers will believe him and not you.
Regarding your 15 minute exchange posted today:
You were good in explaining the minimal threat in fractions of a percent. When Mark claimed that vaccines provided minimal effectiveness and that helped in encounters with other people with co-comorbidities, you missed the reply that the COVID vaccine as well as the flu vaccine provide negative effectiveness (in the double digit range). The vaccine makes it more likely to catch and transmit for everyone that has received the shot. You didn't call him on it and viewers would leave the discussion thinking that the vaccine at least provided some benefit (which it doesn't).
You did get into some of the harms caused by the shot, but Mark bullied you into "one study" or "only at the beginning" and you conceded (which you shouldn't have).
You also missed the comment at the end (vaccinated still got covid) where you should have said the vaccinated got covid multiple times and the unvaccinated rarely got it more than once.
I admire your desire to debate the issues, but I feel that you are missing many of the good arguments to be able to call every exchange a win. Thanks Rav.
Thanks for the critical feedback. I didn't do the debate perfectly and could've improved in some areas as you suggest here. I tried to not let much slide but clearly some things slipped through the crack. He's also very slippery in his argumentation, it's not easy.
You did have some good points. My issue is that 'slippery' people shouldn't be given a mouthpiece unless you intend to 'take down the king' and make them appear the idiots they are.
If you intend to have more discussions in the future, you could prep on the subject matter and have an arsenal prepared ahead of time. I would be happy to help with a practice debate. ;-)
The science they didn't let you see or talk about then is crystal clear now. Negative efficacy. Myriad side effects many life threatening. Check the stats in blood clots and sudden onset stage 4 cancers in age groups never seen before. The miscarriage and still birth rates in vaccinated pregnant mothers and increase in "SIDS" deaths in infants. They mirror the vaccine release and push. If you don't believe the victims how about the insurance actuarials. You even have doctors saying things like" it's almost like everyone was exposed to a toxin all at the same time". Read the Pfizer papers to see what they knew and when they knew it. Shocking. You know, the papers people had to sue to get and that Pfizer asked the courts to hide from the public for 75 years because it was "too much paperwork" to release before that.
Lesson: if"they" have to force you under threat of your livelihood and/ or you can't even talk about it, think twice. Also. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS follow the money.
I must just add that "THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD and research results" were almost entirely corrupted and complete bullshit throughout the covid psyop.
Critical thinking and common sense were infinitely more accurate than the scientific consensus.
I would value the opinion of a homeless guy who uses his brain to think critically, over a medical "expert" who doesn't bother to think at all (most of them unfortunately).
Rav, you still don’t go far enough when calling out Mark Cuban. Cuban represents the obedient, cultish mindset that turned the COVID era into a moral crusade instead of a scientific discussion. His “protect grandma” line was obsolete by mid-2021 — once it was clear the shots didn’t stop infection or transmission, grandma’s protection was her own choice, not anyone else’s burden.
But the deeper issue isn’t just the COVID shot — it’s vaccination itself. The assumption that injecting foreign biological material somehow “trains” the immune system has never been scientifically proven. The entire theory depends on the belief in a pathogenic virus — an entity that’s never been isolated, purified, or shown to cause disease under proper scientific controls. What’s passed off as “virus isolation” is really cell-culture manipulation: poisoning and starving cells in a lab, then claiming the resulting debris proves contagion.
Anyone still clinging to the narrative of “safe and effective” should look at the aftermath. I strongly recommend subscribing to Mark Crispin Miller’s Notes from the Underground — his near-daily documentation of sudden unexplained deaths and soaring mortality since the rollout is damning.
There was never a sound medical or ethical case for coercion — not for young people, not for anyone. Rogan was right to question the narrative, and Cuban’s blind faith in the system has aged terribly. Compliance isn’t virtue; it’s surrender disguised as compassion.
I agree: "Rogan was right to question the narrative, and Cuban’s blind faith in the system has aged terribly. Compliance isn’t virtue; it’s surrender disguised as compassion.:
I told him his line quickly became obsolete and was not based in scientific data.
Do you remember the Johns Hopkins paper (it only existed for a few days) where a researcher showed that the missing seasonal deaths from the Flu, precisely matched the recorded deaths from "covid".
Or that a lab twice asked the CDC for their covid samples to test and all they found was Influenza A and B, both times.
that's always the case. public health people are a bunch of boring bureaucrats who no one pays any attention to which is why every little virus that comes along has to be THE BIGGEST MOST DANGEROUS THING TO EVER HAPPEN EVER. then they get your attention and they get on tv and they finally have their 15 minutes of fame.
you talk about 1996. i don't remember that but i stopped paying attention to public health years ago. i remember 1976- THE DREADED SWINE FLU that was going to be as bad (they wish) as 1918 and everyone needed to take a hastily rushed out vaccine. at least back then, they didn't mock you or fire you from your job if you refused.
my cousin's wife spent a year in a wheelchair after taking that shot which was enough for me! all the data in the world cannot trump my personal experience of seeing someone i knew unable to walk FOR A YEAR FROM A SHOT meant to prevent a flu, which we all have from time to time.
if they stopped monkeying around with viruses in labs, we'd have a lot fewer pandemics but then what would all those Nobel prize wanna bes do for attention and fame?
The rest of the world was not misguided, they believed America would not be wanting to kill all of them, they trusted us, they also got lots of money (USAID?) to "follow them". Remember the 5 African leaders who died suspiciously after they refused to push the shots, Tanzania being the one I remember the most as he spoke up beautifully.
Look at Mark Cuban's house - cluttered with tiny junk... that is the sign of having a brain in disarray.
I have zero patience for antisemitism - an odious pathology in our online discourse. Please don't comment such vile things on my posts, no matter how much you disagree with Mark.
I said to a co-worker 20 or so years ago that most of the policies being pushed ( back then even ) could be related to a depopulation agenda if you extrapolated them out far enough.
He laughed at me.
He had also never heard of "The Georgia Guidestones".
Mark Cuban is an idiot. To continue to debate him implies that he has a legitimate thoughts and opinions. Rav doesn't call him out on his stupidity, which makes these discussions painful and worthless to watch.
I joined this substack because of Dr. Jay. Now we have debates I don't want to watch. Stop giving Mark Cuban a voice.
I disagree. It's important to debate people with large platforms (and resources, in his case) who influence politics and business. This was a critical discussion on core issues of Big Pharma, civil liberties, bodily autonomy etc.
What you said is only true if you win the debate. Since you let Mark Cuban slide on many issues, it is worse to have the debate because it gives him a platform and some of your viewers will believe him and not you.
Regarding your 15 minute exchange posted today:
You were good in explaining the minimal threat in fractions of a percent. When Mark claimed that vaccines provided minimal effectiveness and that helped in encounters with other people with co-comorbidities, you missed the reply that the COVID vaccine as well as the flu vaccine provide negative effectiveness (in the double digit range). The vaccine makes it more likely to catch and transmit for everyone that has received the shot. You didn't call him on it and viewers would leave the discussion thinking that the vaccine at least provided some benefit (which it doesn't).
You did get into some of the harms caused by the shot, but Mark bullied you into "one study" or "only at the beginning" and you conceded (which you shouldn't have).
You also missed the comment at the end (vaccinated still got covid) where you should have said the vaccinated got covid multiple times and the unvaccinated rarely got it more than once.
I admire your desire to debate the issues, but I feel that you are missing many of the good arguments to be able to call every exchange a win. Thanks Rav.
Thanks for the critical feedback. I didn't do the debate perfectly and could've improved in some areas as you suggest here. I tried to not let much slide but clearly some things slipped through the crack. He's also very slippery in his argumentation, it's not easy.
You did have some good points. My issue is that 'slippery' people shouldn't be given a mouthpiece unless you intend to 'take down the king' and make them appear the idiots they are.
If you intend to have more discussions in the future, you could prep on the subject matter and have an arsenal prepared ahead of time. I would be happy to help with a practice debate. ;-)
Really good "Mark saw compliance as virtue. I saw critical thinking as responsibility. History has sided with Rogan."
Indeed.
Thought Mark was a smart guy too. The biggest fallacy was denying and ignoring natural immunity.
Correct.
Cuban is a dumb arrogant pos.
The science they didn't let you see or talk about then is crystal clear now. Negative efficacy. Myriad side effects many life threatening. Check the stats in blood clots and sudden onset stage 4 cancers in age groups never seen before. The miscarriage and still birth rates in vaccinated pregnant mothers and increase in "SIDS" deaths in infants. They mirror the vaccine release and push. If you don't believe the victims how about the insurance actuarials. You even have doctors saying things like" it's almost like everyone was exposed to a toxin all at the same time". Read the Pfizer papers to see what they knew and when they knew it. Shocking. You know, the papers people had to sue to get and that Pfizer asked the courts to hide from the public for 75 years because it was "too much paperwork" to release before that.
Lesson: if"they" have to force you under threat of your livelihood and/ or you can't even talk about it, think twice. Also. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS follow the money.
Just because Cuban has alot of money doesnt mean that he understands THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD and research results.
Your followers dont want to waste their time on listening to an emotional CUBAN debate.
I don't know about you, but I see immense value in debating people with massive platforms and resources that influence politics and business.
I must just add that "THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD and research results" were almost entirely corrupted and complete bullshit throughout the covid psyop.
Critical thinking and common sense were infinitely more accurate than the scientific consensus.
I would value the opinion of a homeless guy who uses his brain to think critically, over a medical "expert" who doesn't bother to think at all (most of them unfortunately).
yikes! painful. i guess money doesn't buy brains.
If only it did!
Rav, you still don’t go far enough when calling out Mark Cuban. Cuban represents the obedient, cultish mindset that turned the COVID era into a moral crusade instead of a scientific discussion. His “protect grandma” line was obsolete by mid-2021 — once it was clear the shots didn’t stop infection or transmission, grandma’s protection was her own choice, not anyone else’s burden.
But the deeper issue isn’t just the COVID shot — it’s vaccination itself. The assumption that injecting foreign biological material somehow “trains” the immune system has never been scientifically proven. The entire theory depends on the belief in a pathogenic virus — an entity that’s never been isolated, purified, or shown to cause disease under proper scientific controls. What’s passed off as “virus isolation” is really cell-culture manipulation: poisoning and starving cells in a lab, then claiming the resulting debris proves contagion.
Anyone still clinging to the narrative of “safe and effective” should look at the aftermath. I strongly recommend subscribing to Mark Crispin Miller’s Notes from the Underground — his near-daily documentation of sudden unexplained deaths and soaring mortality since the rollout is damning.
There was never a sound medical or ethical case for coercion — not for young people, not for anyone. Rogan was right to question the narrative, and Cuban’s blind faith in the system has aged terribly. Compliance isn’t virtue; it’s surrender disguised as compassion.
I agree: "Rogan was right to question the narrative, and Cuban’s blind faith in the system has aged terribly. Compliance isn’t virtue; it’s surrender disguised as compassion.:
I told him his line quickly became obsolete and was not based in scientific data.
Covid was simply a bad flu year. Same as 1996 which had a strong Wuhan flu. Yes, Wuhan flu. Check the news clipings.
And as far as taking the flu shot to protect grandma, say in 1996, THESE SHOTS DONT WORK EITHER, ffs.
Cuban just doubles down. Jerk.
Do you remember the Johns Hopkins paper (it only existed for a few days) where a researcher showed that the missing seasonal deaths from the Flu, precisely matched the recorded deaths from "covid".
Or that a lab twice asked the CDC for their covid samples to test and all they found was Influenza A and B, both times.
How inconvenient for the official narrative.
that's always the case. public health people are a bunch of boring bureaucrats who no one pays any attention to which is why every little virus that comes along has to be THE BIGGEST MOST DANGEROUS THING TO EVER HAPPEN EVER. then they get your attention and they get on tv and they finally have their 15 minutes of fame.
you talk about 1996. i don't remember that but i stopped paying attention to public health years ago. i remember 1976- THE DREADED SWINE FLU that was going to be as bad (they wish) as 1918 and everyone needed to take a hastily rushed out vaccine. at least back then, they didn't mock you or fire you from your job if you refused.
my cousin's wife spent a year in a wheelchair after taking that shot which was enough for me! all the data in the world cannot trump my personal experience of seeing someone i knew unable to walk FOR A YEAR FROM A SHOT meant to prevent a flu, which we all have from time to time.
if they stopped monkeying around with viruses in labs, we'd have a lot fewer pandemics but then what would all those Nobel prize wanna bes do for attention and fame?
The rest of the world was not misguided, they believed America would not be wanting to kill all of them, they trusted us, they also got lots of money (USAID?) to "follow them". Remember the 5 African leaders who died suspiciously after they refused to push the shots, Tanzania being the one I remember the most as he spoke up beautifully.
Look at Mark Cuban's house - cluttered with tiny junk... that is the sign of having a brain in disarray.
Cuban should be deported to his namesake.
Pretty sure that Cuba doesn't want stupid imbeciles like Cuban either.
Yes, this please.
Just goes to show us all that being rich doesn't mean your smart
Mark is a Jew just like gene simmons, and all the rest of them pushing depopulation on the world.
I have zero patience for antisemitism - an odious pathology in our online discourse. Please don't comment such vile things on my posts, no matter how much you disagree with Mark.
Who is the idiot doing the interview? Are you a doctor? Scientist or Phd? STFU then you fxking idiot.
just a kid with a brain
What a fucken muppet
I said to a co-worker 20 or so years ago that most of the policies being pushed ( back then even ) could be related to a depopulation agenda if you extrapolated them out far enough.
He laughed at me.
He had also never heard of "The Georgia Guidestones".