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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Spot on! Bottom line question: How do we stop this perversion of the the truth for profit or control of humanity?

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D D's avatar

I think you know the answer, Thomas. If greed, power and narcissistic personalities were healed and eliminated there would be peace on Earth. I'm not sure the Earth would be able to serve its purpose of teaching without the influence of these types. This episode in the current time certainly will wake many. It's a good start

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

We need it desperately! 🙏

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Shelley's avatar

Power, greed and the use of Congress over many decades was the fertile ground in which this monster grew and none of that growth was happenstance. Congress works for only those that pay - that's the rub that ensures there is no solution. There are no Public Servants.

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D D's avatar

As some people have critiqued the format, imagine the incredible amounts of knowledge each has. To be able to be a host on a podcast, listening is important. Directing the focus is important also, and both Jay and Robert have so much to say. Another interview would be helpful. Dr. Malone speaks with an entirely different rhythm when he doesn't need to choose his words so carefully. There is a need to be selective when discussing some of these topics. This can be dangerous territory.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

The press has long been behind every hype, every sensationalism, every mass marketing of fear and hope that inspires the masses to abandon their sensibilities and throw caution to the wind. Malone brought up the example of the Gold Rush, where the biggest profiteers were those who sold the pickaxes and shovels. This is true.

An interesting presentation of a corollary to today's biopharmaceutical industry and the corruption within the public-private partnership framework. It's an old playbook to hitting paydirt for political-business partnerships. Death and destruction a small price for the powerless to pay for the riches to accrue to the powerful. Lie after lie after lie after lie. Peddled by professional liars in Big Media.

The Gold Rush: Behind the Hype

https://www.foundsf.org/index.php?title=The_Gold_Rush:_Behind_the_Hype

"On May 12, 1848, Samuel Brannan, a Mormon elder from Sutter's Fort, stepped off a boat from Sacramento and paraded down Montgomery Street waving a quinine bottle full of gold dust in one hand and flapping his hat in the other, proclaiming "Gold! Gold! Gold from the American River!"

The gold rush was born that day—not on Jan. 24, 1848, when James Marshall supposedly first discovered gold near Coloma when he was working for John Sutter.

Brannan quickly made a fortune peddling the gold rush--unlike Marshall and Sutter, who died sick and bankrupt years later, as did many other unfortunate '49ers.

Brannan chose to announce his discovery immediately after he had laid plans to set up a new store and warehouse in the gold fields. Within three days some two-thirds of the 600-person population of the sleepy Mexican hamlet of Yerba Buena, now San Francisco, rushed up to Coloma to make him a fortune.

The gold "discovery" was also a perfect excuse for President James Polk to urge the settlement of the new west in December 1848. The government he said, was "deeply interested in the speedy development of the country's wealth and resources." The gold rush had begun.

But the federal government had known about the mineral deposits for at least five years, according to historian Gray Brechin in Imperial San Francisco.

"The Mexican-American War could well be a textbook example of the mining engineer's adage that commerce follows the flag, but the flag follows the pick, for Marshall merely rediscovered gold," Brechin writes. Brechin points out that interest in California's gold was first stirred up in 1843, when nearly 2,000 ounces were sent from mines near the San Fernando Mission in southern California to Washington, D.C.

On May 2, 1846, Thomas Larkin, the United States consul in the colonial capital of Monterey, wrote to Secretary of State James Buchanan, and to Captain John Montgomery aboard the Portsmouth, a U.S. Navy ship off the California coast: "There is no doubt in my mind but that gold, silver, copper, quicksilver, lead, sulphur, and coal mines are to be found all over California."

Eleven days later the United States used a border dispute in Texas as an excuse to declare war on Mexico. The war, and the gold rush that followed, came at great cost to native peoples and the environment—and to the settlers themselves.

Like Brannan and the federal government, many people saw the gold rush as a quick route to riches—but they didn't pack their belongings and head for the Sierra Nevada foothills. Instead, they realized the feverish settlers and the new rich could easily be parted from their money.

Living high on the hog from the gold rush dollars then—and even now—were the few who really made a fortune out of the destruction of California; families like the Hearsts and companies like the Bank of California and Wells Fargo.

Wells Fargo, sponsor of next year's Oakland Museum exhibit, took pride in insuring cargo and delivering mail to gold rush towns. The bank established a reputation for tracking down and shooting highway robbers, then erecting headstones for them reading "Wells Fargo Never Forgets."

George Hearst, father of William Randolph Hearst who made the San Francisco Examiner the newspaper it is today, was a lead miner in Missouri who traveled West despite his mother's misgivings. The Hearst family built the lavish San Simeon estate, while other San Francisco magnates decorated their palaces with similar ostentation."

FF - Hearst Communications remains one of the largest media corporations. With a textbook history of yellow journalism. And being a scribe for the "Deep State" of US political governance getting the nation into wars and enriching preferred business enterprises with powerful lobbyists in DC and state capitols across the nation for 150 years. And they are not alone, the other media corporations just as guilty and complicit. Truly #FakeNews.

The rest of the piece gets into the toxic environmental legacy of the Gold Rush. Which has it's corollary in the Big Pharma scam. And

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Shelley's avatar

More proof that history, all history, is very nuanced and widely misunderstood. Thanks for the post.

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Melanie Reynolds's avatar

Such corruption in every area. Power, greed and control are the basis of it all.

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SR Miller's avatar

Oh, maybe so, maybe not: false narratives and or mis- dis- (dys-?) information may NOT be the most effective strategies of psychology-ops warfare - what about NON-information? When this 💩 💩 storm first arose from chai-nah and the mRNA "vaccine" was proposed I thought to self, "we’re catching up to Star Trek" and we’ll have highly targeted remedies. The problem I found was what I could not find: any reports of successful deployment of mRNA in humans OR in animals, and where it had been used it wasn’t successful. Now, I’m the first to admit, 3 strokes a decade earlier left some impediments to how effective my grey goo once sifted info, 4th 18 months ago, I’m still not drooling and can think circles around pres 💩 💩 🧠, but to my way of thinking (yeah, I know, questionable quality 😆) successful use of mRNA tech prior to injecting in millions/billions of people should’a been top of search results.

Lack of information, good or bad, is at least as dangerous as other presentations of info/data.

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Jean's avatar

Thank you for this portion of your extended discussion. I appreciate the need to fully provide all the elements of this perspective, in the remaining time available. This is the first time I've had these facts covered so clearly. I have been following one of the oligarchs (no doubt part of a group of oligarchs and the Blackrock. et al investment mammoths) who is showing up in multiple roles to direct or influence strategies as you discussed here. These are clearly vital perspectives that need to be shared with and understood by persons in a position to coordinate effective actions to counter these perversions. Thank you so very much for this discussion and moving to get these insights shared and action underway!

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Marago's avatar

Thank you both so much for this discussion. I will share it with others.

I am overwhelmed by all the pieces in this puzzle that you both so carefully pieced together. I know there is probably more to the story, so I will stay tuned.

My best to both of you as you continue to share truth!

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Kate's avatar

I wish Dr M would have permitted DrB to talk- he kept talking over him and interrupting him and then he would ramble for uncomfortably long periods of time.

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Ydna Nietspok's avatar

This is really such a great discussion. I wish that Dr B and Dr M would have talked over each other a little less, so that the conversation flowed a bit better. My biggest question is: how does the American public become educated about this topic to the point of demanding real policy change?

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WHYdidntEYEtakeTHEbluePILL's avatar

great interview

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mule_ear's avatar

Fantastic discussion. I wasn't able to absorb it all, so I'm going to watch it again. Thank you so much to two giants in this new domain.

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Lisa Thommesen's avatar

I’m from Oz. Love your sensibility!

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Marsha's avatar

America has allowed health to become our new religion.

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D D's avatar

So far, 14 comments? Come on, people! This talk covers so much, I need this information repeated more than once, there is So Much to grok! Let's go!

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