Weird how you keep running defense for Dave. I'm not saying Douglas Murray comported himself well, but Dave's arguments are pretty terrible and don't really need a "substantive" rebuttal, as you'd know if you watched Coleman Hughes 3.5 hour debate with Dave where he showed how weak Dave's talking points are.
If you're going to continue cheerleading Dave's bad argumentation, I'm going to take a break from your content until you move on to a more interesting topic with a more "substantive" guest.
Same. And btw - Douglas looking down on Dave has nothing to do with free speech. Everyone should be allowed to speak, but at a certain point, when someone spews nothing but lies and bias, yells others down, you can bet they will be met with condescension. You talk about Douglas' ad hominem attacks but not of Dave's bad manners - talking over and rolling his eyes? Hardly civil.
Yeah, and Dave has an irritating habit of tiptoeing right up to some pretty nasty implications and then pretending that he's "just asking questions" or pointing out "odd coincidences" so he can slime out from under accusations of pushing blatant nonsense.
For instance, with Coleman Hughes, he did everything but outright say that Israel was the primary driver behind the 2nd Iraq war, and that Oct 7th was basically "allowed to happen". However, he's too much of a coward to come right out and say it.
Kind of like how some "journalists" will insult or defame someone by "quoting" an anonymous source, allowing them to put the smear out there without having to own it.
"I'M not saying it. I'm just quoting someone ELSE saying it and presenting it as if it's a legitimate accusation". Cowardly smear merchants, and Dave uses the same tactics with the same type of slimey innuendo.
Douglass Murray let Dave get under his skin, which makes the casual viewer think Dave must be scoring points against Douglass' position, rather than against his patience. So I wish, for the sake of optics, Douglass would either ignore Dave's drivel on Israel, or keep his cool.
Again, Coleman Hughes showed how effective that can be. Konstantin Kisin also did this well. I've seen Douglass Murray absolutely demolish people who needed demolishing, all while staying calm and cool. I'm not sure why Dave gets under his skin like this.
Your buddy Dave Smith relies on lies and antisemitic tropes on which to hang his opinions. It's entirely legitimate to downgrade the opinions of people who have done zero independent research on a topic, have never visited the locations and seem to take in information that supports their preconceived conclusions. I don't know whether Dave is taking cash from anyone or is just playing on audiences who hate Jews but he consistently ignore any facts or evidence that contradicts his predetermined conclusions. He is not just an asshole, his opinions are no more worthwhile than anyone else's (not sure why he keeps getting platformed..), in that opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. His opinions aren't supported with a ponderous of evidence, just bias.
Weird how you keep running defense for Dave. I'm not saying Douglas Murray comported himself well, but Dave's arguments are pretty terrible and don't really need a "substantive" rebuttal, as you'd know if you watched Coleman Hughes 3.5 hour debate with Dave where he showed how weak Dave's talking points are.
If you're going to continue cheerleading Dave's bad argumentation, I'm going to take a break from your content until you move on to a more interesting topic with a more "substantive" guest.
Same. And btw - Douglas looking down on Dave has nothing to do with free speech. Everyone should be allowed to speak, but at a certain point, when someone spews nothing but lies and bias, yells others down, you can bet they will be met with condescension. You talk about Douglas' ad hominem attacks but not of Dave's bad manners - talking over and rolling his eyes? Hardly civil.
Yeah, and Dave has an irritating habit of tiptoeing right up to some pretty nasty implications and then pretending that he's "just asking questions" or pointing out "odd coincidences" so he can slime out from under accusations of pushing blatant nonsense.
For instance, with Coleman Hughes, he did everything but outright say that Israel was the primary driver behind the 2nd Iraq war, and that Oct 7th was basically "allowed to happen". However, he's too much of a coward to come right out and say it.
Kind of like how some "journalists" will insult or defame someone by "quoting" an anonymous source, allowing them to put the smear out there without having to own it.
"I'M not saying it. I'm just quoting someone ELSE saying it and presenting it as if it's a legitimate accusation". Cowardly smear merchants, and Dave uses the same tactics with the same type of slimey innuendo.
Douglass Murray let Dave get under his skin, which makes the casual viewer think Dave must be scoring points against Douglass' position, rather than against his patience. So I wish, for the sake of optics, Douglass would either ignore Dave's drivel on Israel, or keep his cool.
Again, Coleman Hughes showed how effective that can be. Konstantin Kisin also did this well. I've seen Douglass Murray absolutely demolish people who needed demolishing, all while staying calm and cool. I'm not sure why Dave gets under his skin like this.
Your buddy Dave Smith relies on lies and antisemitic tropes on which to hang his opinions. It's entirely legitimate to downgrade the opinions of people who have done zero independent research on a topic, have never visited the locations and seem to take in information that supports their preconceived conclusions. I don't know whether Dave is taking cash from anyone or is just playing on audiences who hate Jews but he consistently ignore any facts or evidence that contradicts his predetermined conclusions. He is not just an asshole, his opinions are no more worthwhile than anyone else's (not sure why he keeps getting platformed..), in that opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. His opinions aren't supported with a ponderous of evidence, just bias.
Just trying to save the world from the loss of brain cells and IQ that results from listening to Dave Smith, an insult to real clowns everywhere.
Just what are Murray's credentials anyway? Is his English accent supposed to impress us dumb Americans? Please.
I have an English accent and I support this comment!
Agree with you Rav. He never took on his actual arguments just resorted to ad hominem attacks.